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muriel_volestrangler

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48. #15, by ProSense: "it isn't about me"

Thu Jun 6, 2013, 07:47 PM

Jun 2013

ProSense had previously said this isn't about ProSense. So they have no right to later reply "I said it. Don't like it? Tough! ". We have been told to ignore what ProSense said. By ProSense.

The problem is that it's ProSense who has thrown reason to the wind in this thread. I'm just pointing it out.

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NYT Editorial Board Slams Obama On Tracking: �Administration Has Now Lost All Credibility� [View all] ProSense Jun 2013 OP

I wonder if the NY Times uses tracking cookies for its website. Wanna take bets? Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #1

The NYT RobinA Jun 2013 #79

That is not the bet. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #87

The problem for Obama is he campaigned as an advocate for ending the Bush abuses DJ13 Jun 2013 #2

It's not the Patriot Act that legalized this, it's the 2008 FISA Amendment which Obama voted for leveymg Jun 2013 #77

you're right, but it's not fair to make Obama take ALL the blame librechik Jun 2013 #91

Oh, I don't blame Obama alone, at all. It's all three branches have had a role in putting this leveymg Jun 2013 #96

it's just more gratuitous police control that we should try to stop librechik Jun 2013 #97

I agree. This is just the mild beginnings of the abuse of these unprecedented powers of state. leveymg Jun 2013 #98

So you don't believe in the old saw "The Buck Stops Here" 1-Old-Man Jun 2013 #110

i don't remember that meme from the nyt with the bu$h name attached... spanone Jun 2013 #3

I remember the NYT covering up Bush's illegal spying before the 2004 elections, giving him a win Coyotl Jun 2013 #90

Hyperbole? pmorlan1 Jun 2013 #4

Yes, I take ProSense Jun 2013 #8

Really? pmorlan1 Jun 2013 #107

Every time I buy swiss cheese, I'm reminded of what the original paper document of our louslobbs Jun 2013 #5

They are calling in all troops and trying Everything Whisp Jun 2013 #6

LOL. Speaking of troops I think they really want to get that Syria thing on. ucrdem Jun 2013 #10

Oh good grief. Hyperbole on ritalin. ucrdem Jun 2013 #7

Carlos Slim put a quarter billion into the NYT. Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #74

NYT lost their credibility with Judy miller, and others pushing us into a war based on a lie still_one Jun 2013 #9

+1 Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #29

Exactly the first thing I thought of. Judith Miller. bullimiami Jun 2013 #52

The NYT was more than happy to promote the Cheney/Bush wars. Kurovski Jun 2013 #11

And candidate Obama was more than happy to take the Bush Admin to task . . . markpkessinger Jun 2013 #68

Thats it. Add the NYT. The Link Jun 2013 #12

It is absolutely incredible to me choie Jun 2013 #13

Hey, ProSense Jun 2013 #15

No, you're not important at all choie Jun 2013 #19

"but I like wasting my time." ProSense Jun 2013 #24

That's obvious, choie Cha Jun 2013 #30

Yea, this isn't about you. This is about...um... the media! DesMoinesDem Jun 2013 #27

You think everything is about you! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #104

Got to get out in front of this and frame it. Skeeter Barnes Jun 2013 #17

OMG ProSense Jun 2013 #21

Keep up the good work. Skeeter Barnes Jun 2013 #26

Keep thinking about me. I look forward to the next stupid comment. ProSense Jun 2013 #28

Stay out of this - you said this isn't about you muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #45

Why on earth would ProSense need or want to stay out of her own thread? ucrdem Jun 2013 #46

#15, by ProSense: "it isn't about me" muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #48

Okay I missed the invisible Monopoly rule change. ucrdem Jun 2013 #51

together hamster Jun 2013 #59

And, there it is again.. another personal attack because Cha Jun 2013 #33

Wow, you showed her. great white snark Jun 2013 #54

Exactly! obama2terms Jun 2013 #89

'Using power' is the same as 'abusing it', huh? randome Jun 2013 #14

Exactly. treestar Jun 2013 #16

And nothing about the GOP side of the 3 month review. randome Jun 2013 #18

+1000 Andy823 Jun 2013 #42

Odd Reasoning RobinA Jun 2013 #80

These are the talking points you went with? DesMoinesDem Jun 2013 #20

Yes, that's my opinion. Now what? ProSense Jun 2013 #23

Evidently you can't do any better. Cha Jun 2013 #35

And the NYT lost all creditability when they were cheerleading the Iraq War Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #22

oh boy. here we go again. limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #25

I was wondering when you'd show up to try to spin this away as a harmelss bit of nothing. Skip Intro Jun 2013 #31

You were thinking about me? ProSense Jun 2013 #32

ROFL alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #38

I'm actually amazed by you. Skip Intro Jun 2013 #39

It isn't harmless, it's malicious and misleading. ucrdem Jun 2013 #36

Indeed. Skip Intro Jun 2013 #40

Yes, indeed. And here we are on DU ucrdem Jun 2013 #41

You're always there to throw stupid insults. Cha Jun 2013 #37

Are you always tree to throw out stupid defenses? Any difference? n-t Logical Jun 2013 #106

I actually was waiting for it. It never fails! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #105

Given that the NY Times broke Bush's illegal NSA program, they are probably aware that the Bush Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #34

Here's one: ProSense Jun 2013 #43

Wait, what? ucrdem Jun 2013 #44

That is an editiorial from 2009. It helps to know what they were editorializing about. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #47

And the issue is different how? ucrdem Jun 2013 #49

Because what the editorial was about was illegal activity. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #53

There's no question of violating "legal limits" this time ucrdem Jun 2013 #56

Yup, he followed the law, and ironically, ProSense Jun 2013 #62

Another invisible rule change. ucrdem Jun 2013 #63

Think about how bad Bush was. ProSense Jun 2013 #58

From Day One. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #50

How come they never said the Bush admin lost all credibility? Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #65

Because Bush Never RobinA Jun 2013 #82

If the NYT thinks Bush never had cred on the subject Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #94

The 2008 FISA Amendment Act legalized much of Bush's NSA program, particularly "driftnet" warrants leveymg Jun 2013 #78

2014 is too close and the Democrats are too popular. mn9driver Jun 2013 #55

The Way It Looks RobinA Jun 2013 #86

Holder has determined that throwing cancer patients in prison for smoking pot is a priority. Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #57

+1 n/t markpkessinger Jun 2013 #67

Yeah RobinA Jun 2013 #83

There's an easy solution to this: Obama announces he will shut down the wiretaps. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #60

What "wiretaps"? n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #61

Such an announcement is several years overdue. n/t winter is coming Jun 2013 #75

There's something happening here obliviously Jun 2013 #64

Why have you misleadingly truncated the Times' quote? markpkessinger Jun 2013 #66

Thank you for pointing that out. The OP does that habitually cali Jun 2013 #69

You're so disingenuous it isn't funny! ProSense Jun 2013 #88

The phrase was apparently added by the NYT later. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #92

The NYT edited it hours later. You should apologize to ProSense for false accusations. n/t Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #95

Whilst I disagree with the OP's take, TPM did the truncation (sort of) Snowfield Jun 2013 #70

They added "on this point" after it was published. WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #72

Either one is hyperbole!!! The admin has NOT lost credibility on ANY point uponit7771 Jun 2013 #84

the admin has lost all credibility RILib Jun 2013 #100

They edited the editorial. WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #71

Will is correct B2G Jun 2013 #81

Judith Miller made sure the NYT lost all credibility years ago. Rex Jun 2013 #73

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2013 #85

+100--they have a lot of nerve librechik Jun 2013 #93

The best cartoon the NYT ever published was the one of Osama bin Laden's underground lair. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #108

Some folks are just upset hamster Jun 2013 #76

Suppose it turns out there's NO personally identifying info in these records? brett_jv Jun 2013 #99

Metadata is more informative than you may think ... lhooq Jun 2013 #102

There was a chance when it was only W, but now we're all bushies. delrem Jun 2013 #101

twas Congress Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #103

I have only two things to say regarding the Times editorial rocktivity Jun 2013 #109

quick question... FirstLight Jun 2013 #111