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MineralMan

(151,273 posts)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:04 AM Jun 2013

We seem so surprised that our privacy can be compromised. [View all]

I don't understand that at all. A thoughtful person would understand that if they post their personal information on the Internet, it will not remain private. From providing your credit card number to online retailers and companies like Paypal to posting photos of yourself in a compromising situation on Facebook, we constantly expose our private information to view.

We do the same with our political beliefs and ideas. DU, for example, is completely transparent to public view, and that means that anyone who wants can see what you wrote here. "But I use an anonymous screen name!" Yes, but it's not easy to keep that screen name anonymous. It takes a lot of effort. Most people use the same screen name on multiple sites, and inadvertently disclose their location, interests, and other details in things like profiles and messages they post.

Some people maintain a certain amount of privacy, but many don't even try. In most cases, about an hour of Googling can usually turn up the actual identity of most screen names. Twitter, Facebook, and other public places are even more transparent. We complain when our private information is discovered, but we continue to post it everywhere, with only the thinnest veneer of anonymity.

Google, for example, indexes DU constantly. Make a post here, and the title of the post will appear at the top of Google searches that use the exact wording of that title in minutes. Search for your screen name and the DU URL, and you can find every post you've ever made on DU on Google. What you have disclosed about yourself is open to view by anybody. Post a photo of yourself on DU, and it will be quickly available to people searching for your screen name on Google. Use that image to search Google Images, and a list of everywhere that exact image is posted on the Internet will pop right up. Is that image connected anywhere on the Internet with you real name? I'll bet it is. People who know that still post their photos here, but don't care. They know that Internet anonymity is largely a myth.

Privacy is important, but it's also important that we protect our own privacy to whatever extent we feel is justified. It's not just the government that is interested in us. In fact the government isn't much interested in us, anyhow. It already has plenty of data about its citizens. Worry more about corporations who are looking for information about consumers. They're the ones who are really using the transparency of the Internet to assemble data about individuals. They're the ones to worry about. The government has many ways to find out about us, if they feel that there's a reason to do so. Mostly, the government doesn't give a damn about your private information. They already have it, and have been collecting it since before the Internet and cell phones existed.

Protect your privacy as best you can, and to the degree you feel appropriate. But realize that privacy is pretty much a myth for anyone who uses today's technology. That loss of privacy is part of the technology. It's built into it, and we eagerly adopt that technology. That's reality. That's the world we inhabit.

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Not surprised. You're confusing issues. Bonobo Jun 2013 #1
I'm in no way saying that it's OK. It's not. MineralMan Jun 2013 #2
It is also important to forcefully demand that this not become the new normal. Bonobo Jun 2013 #5
Our party most certainly did not stand against it. MineralMan Jun 2013 #10
In the wake of 9/11, this is true. Bonobo Jun 2013 #12
Actually, it goes back to the Cold War era. MineralMan Jun 2013 #15
thanks so much for your pov on this. Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #40
Call me cynical, but I don't know whether that will work. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2013 #13
exactly.. if they do it well, we won't.. so on that account Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #45
I'm currently & mostly puzzled by it all, more than anything Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #37
Internet email is not private FarCenter Jun 2013 #41
I have never understood why people post the most intimate things on the Internet. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2013 #3
I post bupkis on Facebook, really. MineralMan Jun 2013 #8
Who are these "we" that you claim are surprised? Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #4
Good question. Rex Jun 2013 #7
Just read the threads. Lots of people are surprised. MineralMan Jun 2013 #9
Upset about policy does not equal surprise. morningfog Jun 2013 #28
That's quite true. MineralMan Jun 2013 #34
Not surprised at all. I'm furious that an *ostensibly* Democratic administration would Zorra Jun 2013 #6
This, of course, is the correct answer, woo me with science Jun 2013 #36
Another pointless gust of wind whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #11
Yes. Whatever you say. MineralMan Jun 2013 #17
The mistake of opening it whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #21
True enough. MineralMan Jun 2013 #24
I notice people slow down to look at car wrecks too. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #22
So they do. MineralMan Jun 2013 #23
To protect privacy, it's best to change one's usernames between different websites DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #14
heh. The Link Jun 2013 #18
heh, yourself... MineralMan Jun 2013 #26
Actually, I've been using the same screen name MineralMan Jun 2013 #19
I appreciate the center-right view of this issue. The Link Jun 2013 #16
Do you? I don't think you know my position at all. MineralMan Jun 2013 #20
LOL. "All posts written by me are my opinion only." morningfog Jun 2013 #29
And so they are. That's why it's in my signature line. MineralMan Jun 2013 #31
I've assumed they've been doing this all along Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #25
It's a fair assumption, I'm sure. MineralMan Jun 2013 #27
So, you are the one actually surprised. morningfog Jun 2013 #30
Is that not what I said? I'm surprised that MineralMan Jun 2013 #32
It's the original reason for the National Radio Quiet Zone jberryhill Jun 2013 #43
If anyone is surprised that is BS. Anyone paying attention has known Autumn Jun 2013 #33
It's lots of folks not paying attention. MineralMan Jun 2013 #35
First, part of this has to do with phone calls. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #38
You shouldn't lose your privacy. The fact is that you do. MineralMan Jun 2013 #39
. LWolf Jun 2013 #42
Thanks. I saw that earlier. MineralMan Jun 2013 #44
I saw your post LWolf Jun 2013 #46
I went and read that blog when I first saw the link. MineralMan Jun 2013 #47
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