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70. Whilst I disagree with the OP's take, TPM did the truncation (sort of)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:10 AM

Jun 2013

Btw, they say it was the NYT that did the edit,

Update: The article was edited several hours after originally being published to now read: "The administration has now lost all credibility on this issue."

Apparently it was the NYT (although I cannot find the NYT anywhere showing the edit, other people have caught them):

N.Y. Times changes scathing editorial

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/06/ny-times-changes-scathing-editorial-165650.html

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NYT Editorial Board Slams Obama On Tracking: �Administration Has Now Lost All Credibility� [View all] ProSense Jun 2013 OP

I wonder if the NY Times uses tracking cookies for its website. Wanna take bets? Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #1

The NYT RobinA Jun 2013 #79

That is not the bet. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #87

The problem for Obama is he campaigned as an advocate for ending the Bush abuses DJ13 Jun 2013 #2

It's not the Patriot Act that legalized this, it's the 2008 FISA Amendment which Obama voted for leveymg Jun 2013 #77

you're right, but it's not fair to make Obama take ALL the blame librechik Jun 2013 #91

Oh, I don't blame Obama alone, at all. It's all three branches have had a role in putting this leveymg Jun 2013 #96

it's just more gratuitous police control that we should try to stop librechik Jun 2013 #97

I agree. This is just the mild beginnings of the abuse of these unprecedented powers of state. leveymg Jun 2013 #98

So you don't believe in the old saw "The Buck Stops Here" 1-Old-Man Jun 2013 #110

i don't remember that meme from the nyt with the bu$h name attached... spanone Jun 2013 #3

I remember the NYT covering up Bush's illegal spying before the 2004 elections, giving him a win Coyotl Jun 2013 #90

Hyperbole? pmorlan1 Jun 2013 #4

Yes, I take ProSense Jun 2013 #8

Really? pmorlan1 Jun 2013 #107

Every time I buy swiss cheese, I'm reminded of what the original paper document of our louslobbs Jun 2013 #5

They are calling in all troops and trying Everything Whisp Jun 2013 #6

LOL. Speaking of troops I think they really want to get that Syria thing on. ucrdem Jun 2013 #10

Oh good grief. Hyperbole on ritalin. ucrdem Jun 2013 #7

Carlos Slim put a quarter billion into the NYT. Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #74

NYT lost their credibility with Judy miller, and others pushing us into a war based on a lie still_one Jun 2013 #9

+1 Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #29

Exactly the first thing I thought of. Judith Miller. bullimiami Jun 2013 #52

The NYT was more than happy to promote the Cheney/Bush wars. Kurovski Jun 2013 #11

And candidate Obama was more than happy to take the Bush Admin to task . . . markpkessinger Jun 2013 #68

Thats it. Add the NYT. The Link Jun 2013 #12

It is absolutely incredible to me choie Jun 2013 #13

Hey, ProSense Jun 2013 #15

No, you're not important at all choie Jun 2013 #19

"but I like wasting my time." ProSense Jun 2013 #24

That's obvious, choie Cha Jun 2013 #30

Yea, this isn't about you. This is about...um... the media! DesMoinesDem Jun 2013 #27

You think everything is about you! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #104

Got to get out in front of this and frame it. Skeeter Barnes Jun 2013 #17

OMG ProSense Jun 2013 #21

Keep up the good work. Skeeter Barnes Jun 2013 #26

Keep thinking about me. I look forward to the next stupid comment. ProSense Jun 2013 #28

Stay out of this - you said this isn't about you muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #45

Why on earth would ProSense need or want to stay out of her own thread? ucrdem Jun 2013 #46

#15, by ProSense: "it isn't about me" muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #48

Okay I missed the invisible Monopoly rule change. ucrdem Jun 2013 #51

together hamster Jun 2013 #59

And, there it is again.. another personal attack because Cha Jun 2013 #33

Wow, you showed her. great white snark Jun 2013 #54

Exactly! obama2terms Jun 2013 #89

'Using power' is the same as 'abusing it', huh? randome Jun 2013 #14

Exactly. treestar Jun 2013 #16

And nothing about the GOP side of the 3 month review. randome Jun 2013 #18

+1000 Andy823 Jun 2013 #42

Odd Reasoning RobinA Jun 2013 #80

These are the talking points you went with? DesMoinesDem Jun 2013 #20

Yes, that's my opinion. Now what? ProSense Jun 2013 #23

Evidently you can't do any better. Cha Jun 2013 #35

And the NYT lost all creditability when they were cheerleading the Iraq War Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #22

oh boy. here we go again. limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #25

I was wondering when you'd show up to try to spin this away as a harmelss bit of nothing. Skip Intro Jun 2013 #31

You were thinking about me? ProSense Jun 2013 #32

ROFL alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #38

I'm actually amazed by you. Skip Intro Jun 2013 #39

It isn't harmless, it's malicious and misleading. ucrdem Jun 2013 #36

Indeed. Skip Intro Jun 2013 #40

Yes, indeed. And here we are on DU ucrdem Jun 2013 #41

You're always there to throw stupid insults. Cha Jun 2013 #37

Are you always tree to throw out stupid defenses? Any difference? n-t Logical Jun 2013 #106

I actually was waiting for it. It never fails! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #105

Given that the NY Times broke Bush's illegal NSA program, they are probably aware that the Bush Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #34

Here's one: ProSense Jun 2013 #43

Wait, what? ucrdem Jun 2013 #44

That is an editiorial from 2009. It helps to know what they were editorializing about. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #47

And the issue is different how? ucrdem Jun 2013 #49

Because what the editorial was about was illegal activity. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #53

There's no question of violating "legal limits" this time ucrdem Jun 2013 #56

Yup, he followed the law, and ironically, ProSense Jun 2013 #62

Another invisible rule change. ucrdem Jun 2013 #63

Think about how bad Bush was. ProSense Jun 2013 #58

From Day One. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #50

How come they never said the Bush admin lost all credibility? Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #65

Because Bush Never RobinA Jun 2013 #82

If the NYT thinks Bush never had cred on the subject Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #94

The 2008 FISA Amendment Act legalized much of Bush's NSA program, particularly "driftnet" warrants leveymg Jun 2013 #78

2014 is too close and the Democrats are too popular. mn9driver Jun 2013 #55

The Way It Looks RobinA Jun 2013 #86

Holder has determined that throwing cancer patients in prison for smoking pot is a priority. Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #57

+1 n/t markpkessinger Jun 2013 #67

Yeah RobinA Jun 2013 #83

There's an easy solution to this: Obama announces he will shut down the wiretaps. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #60

What "wiretaps"? n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #61

Such an announcement is several years overdue. n/t winter is coming Jun 2013 #75

There's something happening here obliviously Jun 2013 #64

Why have you misleadingly truncated the Times' quote? markpkessinger Jun 2013 #66

Thank you for pointing that out. The OP does that habitually cali Jun 2013 #69

You're so disingenuous it isn't funny! ProSense Jun 2013 #88

The phrase was apparently added by the NYT later. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #92

The NYT edited it hours later. You should apologize to ProSense for false accusations. n/t Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #95

Whilst I disagree with the OP's take, TPM did the truncation (sort of) Snowfield Jun 2013 #70

They added "on this point" after it was published. WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #72

Either one is hyperbole!!! The admin has NOT lost credibility on ANY point uponit7771 Jun 2013 #84

the admin has lost all credibility RILib Jun 2013 #100

They edited the editorial. WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #71

Will is correct B2G Jun 2013 #81

Judith Miller made sure the NYT lost all credibility years ago. Rex Jun 2013 #73

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2013 #85

+100--they have a lot of nerve librechik Jun 2013 #93

The best cartoon the NYT ever published was the one of Osama bin Laden's underground lair. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #108

Some folks are just upset hamster Jun 2013 #76

Suppose it turns out there's NO personally identifying info in these records? brett_jv Jun 2013 #99

Metadata is more informative than you may think ... lhooq Jun 2013 #102

There was a chance when it was only W, but now we're all bushies. delrem Jun 2013 #101

twas Congress Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #103

I have only two things to say regarding the Times editorial rocktivity Jun 2013 #109

quick question... FirstLight Jun 2013 #111