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28. And who will take the blame?

Reply to Coyotl (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:20 AM

Jun 2013

Not bu$h.
Not cheney.

Not anyone from the bu$h regime.

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HELLO WORLD! George W. Bush illegally spied on American citizens. Read all about it. [View all] Coyotl Jun 2013 OP

I'll absolutely take that bet Aerows Jun 2013 #1

What is the difference between illegally spying and legally spying?? kentuck Jun 2013 #2

I don't think there is a difference. Without a FISA warrant, it's unconstitutional. However... kysrsoze Jun 2013 #10

HUGE difference: You can impeach a President for illegal actions. Coyotl Jun 2013 #16

You said it! siligut Jun 2013 #26

I've got a dumb question. How is he acting to change the laws? I've heard nothing on that kysrsoze Jun 2013 #31

He is EXPANDING upon them! Don't you get it, Obama is bought and paid for just like most Dustlawyer Jun 2013 #39

It surprises me that some here didn't know Bush was doing it in 2002. blm Jun 2013 #3

I don't think that's what the objections are about. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #5

I know, right? NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #6

And it surprises me at the Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #7

This nt Mojorabbit Jun 2013 #17

Who said we're saying it's OK now? We're saying that we're not surprised and won't play the game blm Jun 2013 #20

Of course it is not O.K. now and wasn't before. Bush was a criminal and got away with it. Coyotl Jun 2013 #24

I was yelling then too Generic Other Jun 2013 #49

THIS ^^^^^ LovingA2andMI Jun 2013 #38

Of course he did. Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2013 #4

Pfftt, you thought wrong. Daniel537 Jun 2013 #8

Uhm no, the Democratic Party is NOT "Loaded with the same criminals who run the GOP" tridim Jun 2013 #29

Hyperbole and histrionics is all the rage, dontcha know? nt SunSeeker Jun 2013 #34

Yes because no one in our party voted for the Patriot act zeemike Jun 2013 #40

Actually, Congress continued the Bush spy program by legalizing it. You can't hang this on Obama, Coyotl Jun 2013 #12

Did he or did he not sign a -- Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2013 #18

Yup. He did sign the bill. kysrsoze Jun 2013 #32

The fuck you can't hang this on Obama DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #35

a Soviet-style program Generic Other Jun 2013 #50

Not Soviet style, and not a cold war, and not directed against US citizens Coyotl Jun 2013 #55

I was pissed off about it when Bush did it Chisox08 Jun 2013 #9

Well, that's a long way of saying WestStar Jun 2013 #11

Bush did the spying for years illegally, without a warrant. Congress gave immunity and legalized it. Coyotl Jun 2013 #13

what in fuck are you all going on about!?!? we complained about THEN boilerbabe Jun 2013 #14

Better watch out with that kind of talk... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #33

We knew about it when Bush was doing it and we talked about it on this board for months. Arkansas Granny Jun 2013 #15

What is going to happen next is Republican posturing, posing as the opponents of spying Coyotl Jun 2013 #19

This will be interesting to see siligut Jun 2013 #43

Another McCarthyite attempt to silence Generic Other Jun 2013 #51

Whistleblower: The NSA Is Lying�U.S. Government Has Copies of Most of Your Emails Coyotl Jun 2013 #21

They don't even need your emails, they've got facebook. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #36

incredible, isnt it? bunnies Jun 2013 #41

Not everyone who uses Facebook posts all of their details. ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #52

Newsflash: Bush isn't president anymore. DesMoinesDem Jun 2013 #22

The FISA court isn't elected and operates under existing law. Change the law if you can Coyotl Jun 2013 #23

Obama could stop it immediately with an executive order. DesMoinesDem Jun 2013 #25

Ron Wyden on NSA Spying & Secret Law = Clipped from:Senate Session Dec 27, 2012 Coyotl Jun 2013 #27

And who will take the blame? liberal N proud Jun 2013 #28

Democracy Now: "A Massive Surveillance State": Glenn Greenwald Exposes Covert NSA Program Coyotl Jun 2013 #30

No memory hole here. blackspade Jun 2013 #37

Are you trying to say that, LWolf Jun 2013 #42

Of course not. Coyotl Jun 2013 #46

If Obama did not confront LWolf Jun 2013 #48

K & R Scurrilous Jun 2013 #44

Yeah, he was terrible for liberty too Ter Jun 2013 #45

Domestic Surveillance TIMELINE, From Bush to Obama Timeline: PRISM, Total Information Awareness ... Coyotl Jun 2013 #47

Internet giants deny granting government 'direct access' to servers Coyotl Jun 2013 #53

Guardian Cover Page = WOW Coyotl Jun 2013 #54

Stop Freaking Out About the NSA Coyotl Jun 2013 #56

You are gullible if you really think the is nothing to worry about! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #57

Putting some of the freaking out into perspective is not gullibility, freakingh out is Coyotl Jun 2013 #59

What's your point? That now it's OKAY? That we should remain forever silent? WinkyDink Jun 2013 #58

Does a lenghty post seem like remaining silent to you? Coyotl Jun 2013 #60

Maybe you should try a different thread title, then. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #62

The threads title reflects the topic of the thread, of course. Coyotl Jun 2013 #63

Nothing we didn't know, but Obama should have STOPPED the practice instead of Zavulon Jun 2013 #61