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MineralMan

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15. Actually, it goes back to the Cold War era.

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:45 AM

Jun 2013

Discussions about this kind of data gathering were going on even in the 1960s, in anticipation of technology that would develop. The foundation was laid in the 60s. I was there. It wasn't possible then, but it was eagerly anticipated and planned for. Development of the capabilities went on apace with the development of the technology

Democrats then, as now, understood what was going to be possible, and funded the research and development. The cold war demanded it, so it happened.

The door was opened and it was never closed. Now, there's no door at all. Just air. There are no plans to rebuild that door or close it.

9/11 happened. That was the end of any real chance for opposition to succeed. The reality we have is the reality that began 50 years ago, when the possibilities were first raised.

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We seem so surprised that our privacy can be compromised. [View all] MineralMan Jun 2013 OP

Not surprised. You're confusing issues. Bonobo Jun 2013 #1

I'm in no way saying that it's OK. It's not. MineralMan Jun 2013 #2

It is also important to forcefully demand that this not become the new normal. Bonobo Jun 2013 #5

Our party most certainly did not stand against it. MineralMan Jun 2013 #10

In the wake of 9/11, this is true. Bonobo Jun 2013 #12

Actually, it goes back to the Cold War era. MineralMan Jun 2013 #15

thanks so much for your pov on this. Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #40

Call me cynical, but I don't know whether that will work. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2013 #13

exactly.. if they do it well, we won't.. so on that account Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #45

I'm currently & mostly puzzled by it all, more than anything Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #37

Internet email is not private FarCenter Jun 2013 #41

I have never understood why people post the most intimate things on the Internet. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2013 #3

I post bupkis on Facebook, really. MineralMan Jun 2013 #8

Who are these "we" that you claim are surprised? Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #4

Good question. Rex Jun 2013 #7

Just read the threads. Lots of people are surprised. MineralMan Jun 2013 #9

Upset about policy does not equal surprise. morningfog Jun 2013 #28

That's quite true. MineralMan Jun 2013 #34

Not surprised at all. I'm furious that an *ostensibly* Democratic administration would Zorra Jun 2013 #6

This, of course, is the correct answer, woo me with science Jun 2013 #36

Another pointless gust of wind whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #11

Yes. Whatever you say. MineralMan Jun 2013 #17

The mistake of opening it whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #21

True enough. MineralMan Jun 2013 #24

I notice people slow down to look at car wrecks too. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #22

So they do. MineralMan Jun 2013 #23

To protect privacy, it's best to change one's usernames between different websites DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #14

heh. The Link Jun 2013 #18

heh, yourself... MineralMan Jun 2013 #26

Actually, I've been using the same screen name MineralMan Jun 2013 #19

I appreciate the center-right view of this issue. The Link Jun 2013 #16

Do you? I don't think you know my position at all. MineralMan Jun 2013 #20

LOL. "All posts written by me are my opinion only." morningfog Jun 2013 #29

And so they are. That's why it's in my signature line. MineralMan Jun 2013 #31

I've assumed they've been doing this all along Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #25

It's a fair assumption, I'm sure. MineralMan Jun 2013 #27

So, you are the one actually surprised. morningfog Jun 2013 #30

Is that not what I said? I'm surprised that MineralMan Jun 2013 #32

It's the original reason for the National Radio Quiet Zone jberryhill Jun 2013 #43

If anyone is surprised that is BS. Anyone paying attention has known Autumn Jun 2013 #33

It's lots of folks not paying attention. MineralMan Jun 2013 #35

First, part of this has to do with phone calls. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #38

You shouldn't lose your privacy. The fact is that you do. MineralMan Jun 2013 #39

. LWolf Jun 2013 #42

Thanks. I saw that earlier. MineralMan Jun 2013 #44

I saw your post LWolf Jun 2013 #46

I went and read that blog when I first saw the link. MineralMan Jun 2013 #47