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In reply to the discussion: Why the NSA scandal belongs squarely in President Obama's lap [View all]TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)The Patriot Act is horrific, signing off on it is certainly authoritarian and that shit is baked right into the cake and authoritarianism being called assholery is pretty damn mild.
Unless this shit is our agenda (and it won't be mine) then we should be putting maximum distance between our positions and crap like this instead of absurdly circling the wagons.
You can't circle the wagons here without buying big on not just the "who" but the "what" you must defend.
Not for ANY price, I say. To be maneuvered into support of such distortions of our foundation law and aspirations is unacceptable and I would think impossible for people that actually value who and what we as a people aspire (or at least once did, not so long ago) to be.
The game aspect and personality focus have gone way to far. It seems the basic points have been lost in the fluff and pageantry.