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librechik

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65. lol. Sure. It would have been that simple.

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:40 PM

Jun 2013

maybe they just would have dropped an rice sized pill of plutonium in his coffee. Are you one of those people who talk about how Obama had a majority in the Senate and the House? As if Blue Dogs don't exists and the results aren't carefully planned in advance by Repub operatives and all we need is a floor vote or a veto from Obama?

read this. Rude says it so much better than me, and he is right on.

NSA Phone Record Collecting and the Melancholy of Living in the Future: http://t.co/N9LPsLUNFf

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Why the NSA scandal belongs squarely in President Obama's lap [View all] Savannahmann Jun 2013 OP

k and r nashville_brook Jun 2013 #1

Let's see, this is now a "scandal" instead of a law, but Bush did it illegally Coyotl Jun 2013 #60

lamest conspiracy theory, ever. nashville_brook Jun 2013 #63

FACTS are not theories Coyotl Jun 2013 #69

Rut Roh!!!! nt greytdemocrat Jun 2013 #2

FULL IGNORE? Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #4

We can't ignore our President marshall Jun 2013 #54

Then after he was elected President he had that little heart-to-heart with the Defense monmouth3 Jun 2013 #3

Did the oath he took say he would side with the Defense Department? Savannahmann Jun 2013 #13

Actually he switched positions before he was elected: JaneyVee Jun 2013 #29

An interesting read. Thanks..n/t monmouth3 Jun 2013 #31

k&r Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #5

Bush was doing it illegally since 2002. Congress legalized it for him in 2006. blm Jun 2013 #6

+100 peace13 Jun 2013 #8

Trying to think of a name for becoming aware of something only when it benefits the GOP siligut Jun 2013 #22

The word you are looking for is "propaganda" Coyotl Jun 2013 #61

A special form of incubation! peace13 Jun 2013 #72

The President runs the NSA Savannahmann Jun 2013 #9

Do you KNOW that he was using it to target Americans? No. If he was showing discernment then blm Jun 2013 #14

That's the point. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #16

You're assuming. I'm willing to bet that Obama did put curbs on the program and I have never been blm Jun 2013 #19

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! woo me with science Jun 2013 #34

Sorry to disappoint you, but, I do believe Obama didn't go to the extremes Bush did blm Jun 2013 #42

I belieeeeeeeeeeeeve! woo me with science Jun 2013 #43

I'm well aware of all of that and still state that when all the documents are released we'll see blm Jun 2013 #52

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA woo me with science Jun 2013 #53

If you trust Bush-Cheney with NSA program more than Obama-Biden, you should've voted for McCain. blm Jun 2013 #55

YOU MUST WANT PRESIDENT PALIN!!!!!!! woo me with science Jun 2013 #56

just getting down to brass tacks, woo.... blm Jun 2013 #70

Thank you for compiling this list Generic Other Jun 2013 #71

Are you really unaware of the NSA Data Center being built in Utah? siligut Jun 2013 #24

Yes I am aware of it. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #25

We aren't going to argue at all siligut Jun 2013 #26

The problem is that the intel... Whiskeytide Jun 2013 #15

If that is the case, it is more than distressing. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #17

I agree. Whiskeytide Jun 2013 #21

In the end, my point stands. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #23

The really irritating thing is that I bet Rand Paul is right on this one. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #40

The Patriot Act spying didn't protect us from the Tsarnaev brothers. PADemD Jun 2013 #57

It's interesting to consider that... Whiskeytide Jun 2013 #66

This is a judiciary that operates in secret. bluedeathray Jun 2013 #35

^^^^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^^^ pkdu Jun 2013 #51

Are you saying that President Obama should have lobbied every Congress person to overturn the .... peace13 Jun 2013 #7

President Obama didn't have to lobby Congress Savannahmann Jun 2013 #10

Yup! Obama alone has no power to repeal the law. longship Jun 2013 #12

President Obama had all the power to repeal the law. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #18

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #11

You can be against the President but... peace13 Jun 2013 #20

Bogus hide. The poster's point was 100% accurate and his reaction to the point perfectly reasonable TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #37

No, it wasn't bogus at all. Pleasantly, Surprised though in this lynch Cha Jun 2013 #78

President Obama has had time to look into this and make sure it's legal. AndyA Jun 2013 #27

Do you have any idea what would have happened if Obama did NOT use all the tools available to him... randome Jun 2013 #28

Is there any conclusive evidence that this program has prevented any attacks? AndyA Jun 2013 #32

Of course there is no conclusive evidence. Why would they announce anything like that? randome Jun 2013 #36

There's this, randome.. Cha Jun 2013 #80

We needed President Obama to follow through on what Candidate Obama promised Savannahmann Jun 2013 #33

I hear where you're coming from, really. randome Jun 2013 #38

Fuck the TeaPubliKlan outrage, where was it when 9/11 actually happened on their watch? TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #41

I don't care about their outrage either! randome Jun 2013 #44

Like the Democrats did in 2002 and then when BushCo was booted in 2004? TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #82

Well it is "legal".. so what's your point? Cha Jun 2013 #79

Saying "other guy did it too" is a piss poor excuse for spying on Americans. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #30

Indeed. Weaksauce supreme. nt Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #46

Weak is not discerning a difference between now and Bush. great white snark Jun 2013 #50

^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^ +1000000000000000 Coyotl Jun 2013 #62

What scandal?? DCBob Jun 2013 #39

What's the scandal? alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #45

Access all the data of every customer every day for at least one phone company. morningfog Jun 2013 #59

I understand that you disagree with what was done alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #67

It's impropriety is obvious, its legality questionable. morningfog Jun 2013 #68

President Obama Defends NSA Surveillance Programs As �Right Balance� Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #76

Really? SMH Mr Dixon Jun 2013 #47

Under what authority do we address those other issues? Savannahmann Jun 2013 #64

Point taken Mr Dixon Jun 2013 #73

The Constitution applies. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #74

The truth Mr Dixon Jun 2013 #75

Scandal says you. great white snark Jun 2013 #48

yeah, he coulda picked the hard way and we'd have President Boehner right now. librechik Jun 2013 #49

So let me get this straight. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #58

lol. Sure. It would have been that simple. librechik Jun 2013 #65

Not in his lap alone, though. JoeyT Jun 2013 #77

Fox Noise pundits are concerned about all this spying. Turbineguy Jun 2013 #81