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63. Providing the actual quote in all it's rhetorical elegance doesnt help us figure out what it means.

Reply to MineralMan (Reply #62)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 03:04 PM

Jun 2013

I believe it means we should trust the government. If I am wrong, tell me how.

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If you can't trust your government, we're going to have some problems [View all] B2G Jun 2013 OP

We have been having "some problems" for quite a while now. Autumn Jun 2013 #1

We're not supposed to "trust" our govenment in a democracy. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #9

We are not allowed to hold public servants accountable. I learned that Autumn Jun 2013 #15

Yes. nt LWolf Jun 2013 #26

That is what I learned in school. Don't trust your government but PsychoBunny Jun 2013 #52

Welcome to DU. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #76

When I herd the President say that I was like "Well then we have problems!" nt kelly1mm Jun 2013 #2

Sounds like a threat to me. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #3

Agree. That statement really surprised me. B2G Jun 2013 #4

That's not the actual quote. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #5

Same meaning, more words. B2G Jun 2013 #7

No. Not the same meaning. MineralMan Jun 2013 #14

I agree with you. She wanted to get a lot of attention so she didn't bother to quote accurately. okaawhatever Jun 2013 #73

The way I see it is the executive branch, Autumn Jun 2013 #42

Thank you. MineralMan Jun 2013 #10

+1 Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #13

Thx for this, I figured it wasn't an accurate quote but near uponit7771 Jun 2013 #20

It is funny to me how vaunted Congress suddenly is Dreamer Tatum Jun 2013 #22

Actually, for something like this the current Congress is great jeff47 Jun 2013 #75

Obama often says things that almost sound like he's warning us... KoKo Jun 2013 #46

I used to think the government didnt listen to people like me markiv Jun 2013 #6

Nice. +1 n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #74

Beat the Republicans/Teabaggers in 2014, for starters. tridim Jun 2013 #8

That is a distortion of what President Obama said. MineralMan Jun 2013 #11

Sorry, didn't have the full quote handy B2G Jun 2013 #12

It is precisely taking it out of context. MineralMan Jun 2013 #17

Perhaps you can explain to me what he meant by the full quote B2G Jun 2013 #19

No. I will not do that for you. MineralMan Jun 2013 #24

You are spliting hairs B2G Jun 2013 #27

I'm splitting nothing. MineralMan Jun 2013 #32

What kind of problems? How about the fact that freedom is law & order. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #38

So you dont like the way the message was provided in the OP. Why dont you correct the message rhett o rick Jun 2013 #60

I did correct it. So did someone else. MineralMan Jun 2013 #62

Providing the actual quote in all it's rhetorical elegance doesnt help us figure out what it means. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #63

My objection is limited to the altered quotation. MineralMan Jun 2013 #65

Then we agree that the quote is easily understood and he was telling us to trust the government. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #66

We agree that the OP misquoted the President. MineralMan Jun 2013 #67

The OP accurately generalized what the President said. Why dont you address rhett o rick Jun 2013 #68

I think we should look at what actually happened MineralMan Jun 2013 #69

I hadnt noticed that an earlier version had the words in quotes. That was wrong and I understand rhett o rick Jun 2013 #70

and i removed the quotes almost immediately B2G Jun 2013 #71

That was my only objection to the post, so I said something. MineralMan Jun 2013 #72

If there is no content based difference in the summation and the quote then what is the uproar? TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #79

He should define "Bad Guys." His audience isn't children. KoKo Jun 2013 #50

You know, I don't really care. I care that someone MineralMan Jun 2013 #54

I almost spit my coffee out when he said that. premium Jun 2013 #16

You spit your coffee out when he said what? The deliberate misquote in the OP? tridim Jun 2013 #30

This is what I was laughing about. premium Jun 2013 #45

lol...for some reason I feel he didn't say that but point taken. Our government sholdn't be uponit7771 Jun 2013 #18

Yep absolutely. Civil society requires cooperation from civilians. closeupready Jun 2013 #21

You left out tyranny B2G Jun 2013 #23

Right, sorry about that. closeupready Jun 2013 #37

THIS is the problem with our society, complexity and nuance is shunned. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #25

What nuances did you take from his statement? B2G Jun 2013 #29

I notice that you are not getting an answer MindPilot Jun 2013 #44

Link please? Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #28

Nice. Now I'm a freeper for listening to his speech. B2G Jun 2013 #31

Funny how your quote is wrong, yet exactly like freepervilles post Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #34

Ouch. That's no coincidence. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #36

It may not have come from FR. The altered quote comes from MineralMan Jun 2013 #40

True Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #53

Is it possible just this once MindPilot Jun 2013 #48

No. They just copied and pasted a misquote from MineralMan Jun 2013 #56

Same meaning fewer words. MindPilot Jun 2013 #59

Agree...this is just a Message Board and it was this posters reaction. KoKo Jun 2013 #64

Yep tridim Jun 2013 #33

Damn. I should have done that search. MineralMan Jun 2013 #35

Yes, I've been hanging out at freeperville B2G Jun 2013 #47

I have no idea, nor did I say, where you hang out. MineralMan Jun 2013 #51

I have no doubt the NSA could get to the bottom of this B2G Jun 2013 #57

Obama needs to go back Politicalboi Jun 2013 #39

Gee. Without Cass Sunstein around, I don't know what to think. Octafish Jun 2013 #41

It's OK, America. Really. Nothing to be concerned about. AndyA Jun 2013 #43

The train is going off the rails Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #49

We do have a problem and the president is making it worse. bowens43 Jun 2013 #55

I think you need to put up what the President actually said Liberal In Texas Jun 2013 #58

Let me think about it... B2G Jun 2013 #82

The late Mr. Reagan got one thing right. Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #61

k&r just for the petty abuse B2G took in this thread. Laelth Jun 2013 #77

+1 Distraction woo me with science Jun 2013 #81

We have to, at some point treestar Jun 2013 #78

6% think Congress is doing a good job, 94% are correct that they are not. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #80