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TheKentuckian

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79. If there is no content based difference in the summation and the quote then what is the uproar?

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 05:37 PM

Jun 2013

Did they change the holy script or something?

Does anyone trust Congress? Isn't the question absurd on it's face? It would be crazy for anyone to say they do.

Who trusts the Reagan, Bush, and Bush stacked courts? Particularly the Supreme Court?

So even if you trust the Executive just fine you can bet your ass that you will not trust some future occupant and that you are relying on faith because the other two are fundamentally incapable of providing the required oversight and our form of government and literally every bit of history council against such power, AT ALL but especially without check.

Truly without check since the apology/argument has morphed from denial to denial of any other possibility.

To sum it all up no shit we have some problems, Mr. President. What is the point of your statement? Are you actually trying to imply otherwise?

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If you can't trust your government, we're going to have some problems [View all] B2G Jun 2013 OP

We have been having "some problems" for quite a while now. Autumn Jun 2013 #1

We're not supposed to "trust" our govenment in a democracy. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #9

We are not allowed to hold public servants accountable. I learned that Autumn Jun 2013 #15

Yes. nt LWolf Jun 2013 #26

That is what I learned in school. Don't trust your government but PsychoBunny Jun 2013 #52

Welcome to DU. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #76

When I herd the President say that I was like "Well then we have problems!" nt kelly1mm Jun 2013 #2

Sounds like a threat to me. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #3

Agree. That statement really surprised me. B2G Jun 2013 #4

That's not the actual quote. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #5

Same meaning, more words. B2G Jun 2013 #7

No. Not the same meaning. MineralMan Jun 2013 #14

I agree with you. She wanted to get a lot of attention so she didn't bother to quote accurately. okaawhatever Jun 2013 #73

The way I see it is the executive branch, Autumn Jun 2013 #42

Thank you. MineralMan Jun 2013 #10

+1 Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #13

Thx for this, I figured it wasn't an accurate quote but near uponit7771 Jun 2013 #20

It is funny to me how vaunted Congress suddenly is Dreamer Tatum Jun 2013 #22

Actually, for something like this the current Congress is great jeff47 Jun 2013 #75

Obama often says things that almost sound like he's warning us... KoKo Jun 2013 #46

I used to think the government didnt listen to people like me markiv Jun 2013 #6

Nice. +1 n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #74

Beat the Republicans/Teabaggers in 2014, for starters. tridim Jun 2013 #8

That is a distortion of what President Obama said. MineralMan Jun 2013 #11

Sorry, didn't have the full quote handy B2G Jun 2013 #12

It is precisely taking it out of context. MineralMan Jun 2013 #17

Perhaps you can explain to me what he meant by the full quote B2G Jun 2013 #19

No. I will not do that for you. MineralMan Jun 2013 #24

You are spliting hairs B2G Jun 2013 #27

I'm splitting nothing. MineralMan Jun 2013 #32

What kind of problems? How about the fact that freedom is law & order. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #38

So you dont like the way the message was provided in the OP. Why dont you correct the message rhett o rick Jun 2013 #60

I did correct it. So did someone else. MineralMan Jun 2013 #62

Providing the actual quote in all it's rhetorical elegance doesnt help us figure out what it means. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #63

My objection is limited to the altered quotation. MineralMan Jun 2013 #65

Then we agree that the quote is easily understood and he was telling us to trust the government. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #66

We agree that the OP misquoted the President. MineralMan Jun 2013 #67

The OP accurately generalized what the President said. Why dont you address rhett o rick Jun 2013 #68

I think we should look at what actually happened MineralMan Jun 2013 #69

I hadnt noticed that an earlier version had the words in quotes. That was wrong and I understand rhett o rick Jun 2013 #70

and i removed the quotes almost immediately B2G Jun 2013 #71

That was my only objection to the post, so I said something. MineralMan Jun 2013 #72

If there is no content based difference in the summation and the quote then what is the uproar? TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #79

He should define "Bad Guys." His audience isn't children. KoKo Jun 2013 #50

You know, I don't really care. I care that someone MineralMan Jun 2013 #54

I almost spit my coffee out when he said that. premium Jun 2013 #16

You spit your coffee out when he said what? The deliberate misquote in the OP? tridim Jun 2013 #30

This is what I was laughing about. premium Jun 2013 #45

lol...for some reason I feel he didn't say that but point taken. Our government sholdn't be uponit7771 Jun 2013 #18

Yep absolutely. Civil society requires cooperation from civilians. closeupready Jun 2013 #21

You left out tyranny B2G Jun 2013 #23

Right, sorry about that. closeupready Jun 2013 #37

THIS is the problem with our society, complexity and nuance is shunned. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #25

What nuances did you take from his statement? B2G Jun 2013 #29

I notice that you are not getting an answer MindPilot Jun 2013 #44

Link please? Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #28

Nice. Now I'm a freeper for listening to his speech. B2G Jun 2013 #31

Funny how your quote is wrong, yet exactly like freepervilles post Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #34

Ouch. That's no coincidence. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #36

It may not have come from FR. The altered quote comes from MineralMan Jun 2013 #40

True Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #53

Is it possible just this once MindPilot Jun 2013 #48

No. They just copied and pasted a misquote from MineralMan Jun 2013 #56

Same meaning fewer words. MindPilot Jun 2013 #59

Agree...this is just a Message Board and it was this posters reaction. KoKo Jun 2013 #64

Yep tridim Jun 2013 #33

Damn. I should have done that search. MineralMan Jun 2013 #35

Yes, I've been hanging out at freeperville B2G Jun 2013 #47

I have no idea, nor did I say, where you hang out. MineralMan Jun 2013 #51

I have no doubt the NSA could get to the bottom of this B2G Jun 2013 #57

Obama needs to go back Politicalboi Jun 2013 #39

Gee. Without Cass Sunstein around, I don't know what to think. Octafish Jun 2013 #41

It's OK, America. Really. Nothing to be concerned about. AndyA Jun 2013 #43

The train is going off the rails Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #49

We do have a problem and the president is making it worse. bowens43 Jun 2013 #55

I think you need to put up what the President actually said Liberal In Texas Jun 2013 #58

Let me think about it... B2G Jun 2013 #82

The late Mr. Reagan got one thing right. Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #61

k&r just for the petty abuse B2G took in this thread. Laelth Jun 2013 #77

+1 Distraction woo me with science Jun 2013 #81

We have to, at some point treestar Jun 2013 #78

6% think Congress is doing a good job, 94% are correct that they are not. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #80