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In reply to the discussion: The President did say he thought some of his powers should be curtailed [View all]Raine1967
(11,676 posts)29. Ironically, one of the authors of the Patriot act is calling to limit the patriot act:
Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-WI), who helped draft the PATRIOT Act, is exploring options to narrow a provision of the law that allows the National Security Agency (NSA) to obtain telephonic metadata on nearly all Americans. The comments are the first indication that Congress may act to restrict the governments ongoing data collection since the Guardian published a secret court order compelling Verizon to turn over its records on a on an ongoing daily basis and the Wall Street Journal reported that AT&T and Sprint are also sending their records to the government.
I have a big problem because the business records part of the Patriot Act, which is what was used to justify this, was designed for specific investigations, Sensenbrenner told Fox News on Friday. Were seeing big government in action, just like George Orwell predicted but maybe a few years later, he added.
From Think Progress: http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/06/07/2119351/author-of-patriot-act-says-he-will-try-to-narrow-provisions-to-prevent-government-surveillance/
I have a big problem because the business records part of the Patriot Act, which is what was used to justify this, was designed for specific investigations, Sensenbrenner told Fox News on Friday. Were seeing big government in action, just like George Orwell predicted but maybe a few years later, he added.
Y'all remember Jim Sensenbrenner, right? Here is his UTTER hypocrisy
Am I the only one who is seeing this? They were FINE when bush did this -- but now that a President who is not an R has this power they have a problem with it?
If I need to make it clear: I am not saying this is fine, good or acceptable. I am saying what I said years and years ago: If anyone thinks ANY president given powers isn't going to use them -- they are fooling themselves. This was why I was so disappointed when they gave the executive office this power.
For the GOP -- ALL OF THEM -- to feign outrage about this is utterly laughable. We knew then -- we know now. I never ever pretended that President Obama wouldn't use the powers given to the executive branch.
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The President did say he thought some of his powers should be curtailed [View all]
BainsBane
Jun 2013
OP
I took a quick look around some right wing forums this morniing. They don't appear all that .....
wandy
Jun 2013
#6
And well she should be! Why else would a conservative news source just leak something.........
wandy
Jun 2013
#28
Has Obama been running roughshod over our liberties, just to demonstrate how bad the Patriot Act is?
BlueStreak
Jun 2013
#2
So what? If he really had any compass, he'd limit himself. Fucking "the devil made me do it"
TheKentuckian
Jun 2013
#4
I've noticed several Republican voters are highly upset by this implementation of the Patriot Act.
Lone_Star_Dem
Jun 2013
#11
is this one of those "make me (him) do it" things where he or his supporter cleverly puts the onus
boilerbabe
Jun 2013
#21
What is the Roberts Court's view of the 4th Amendment is the real question.
madinmaryland
Jun 2013
#27
Ironically, one of the authors of the Patriot act is calling to limit the patriot act:
Raine1967
Jun 2013
#29
Then he needs to get rid of Holder & put in an AG who doesn't incarcerate medical marijuana patients
Warren DeMontague
Jun 2013
#36
If we want to stop pretending the 4th Amendment doesn't exist, we need to end the drug war.
Warren DeMontague
Jun 2013
#34
It's pretty hard to have a discussion about what has happened to the 4A, however, without
Warren DeMontague
Jun 2013
#42
Yeah, that's a natural assumption. Interestingly enough, though, if you look at the PATRIOT Act
Warren DeMontague
Jun 2013
#51