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Raine1967

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29. Ironically, one of the authors of the Patriot act is calling to limit the patriot act:
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 06:46 PM
Jun 2013
Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-WI), who helped draft the PATRIOT Act, is exploring options to narrow a provision of the law that allows the National Security Agency (NSA) to obtain telephonic metadata on nearly all Americans. The comments are the first indication that Congress may act to restrict the government’s ongoing data collection since the Guardian published a secret court order compelling Verizon to turn over its records on a “on an ongoing daily basis” and the Wall Street Journal reported that AT&T and Sprint are also sending their records to the government.

“I have a big problem because the business records part of the Patriot Act, which is what was used to justify this, was designed for specific investigations,” Sensenbrenner told Fox News on Friday. “We’re seeing big government in action, just like George Orwell predicted but maybe a few years later,” he added.
From Think Progress: http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/06/07/2119351/author-of-patriot-act-says-he-will-try-to-narrow-provisions-to-prevent-government-surveillance/

Y'all remember Jim Sensenbrenner, right? Here is his UTTER hypocrisy


Am I the only one who is seeing this? They were FINE when bush did this -- but now that a President who is not an R has this power they have a problem with it?


If I need to make it clear: I am not saying this is fine, good or acceptable. I am saying what I said years and years ago: If anyone thinks ANY president given powers isn't going to use them -- they are fooling themselves. This was why I was so disappointed when they gave the executive office this power.

For the GOP -- ALL OF THEM -- to feign outrage about this is utterly laughable. We knew then -- we know now. I never ever pretended that President Obama wouldn't use the powers given to the executive branch.

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Nobody complained about George bush on this? Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #1
I took a quick look around some right wing forums this morniing. They don't appear all that ..... wandy Jun 2013 #6
Or they simply don't see it as a problem BainsBane Jun 2013 #8
My right-wing fundy sister certainly seems to have latched onto this story... Silent3 Jun 2013 #25
And well she should be! Why else would a conservative news source just leak something......... wandy Jun 2013 #28
Some of us did. Some of us didn't. What do YOU intend to do now? DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #7
Lots of people complained about George Bush. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #18
but we didn't hear much about it in the media Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #19
Wow, so there is a moment to be seized, right? woo me with science Jun 2013 #23
For us it has been a big issue - long before and during Bush and Cheney Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #31
So why are you posting as though outrage were unwarranted, woo me with science Jun 2013 #33
I think that you are missing the point Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #43
Has Obama been running roughshod over our liberties, just to demonstrate how bad the Patriot Act is? BlueStreak Jun 2013 #2
No BainsBane Jun 2013 #3
So what? If he really had any compass, he'd limit himself. Fucking "the devil made me do it" TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #4
The question is do you just want to be pissed off BainsBane Jun 2013 #5
A good start would be getting rid of the dam patriot act................ wandy Jun 2013 #9
I would like to see that BainsBane Jun 2013 #10
Looks like the problem is the 2008 FISA expansion. dkf Jun 2013 #26
I heard today that some of this is authorized BainsBane Jun 2013 #45
agreed. lame. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #50
I've noticed several Republican voters are highly upset by this implementation of the Patriot Act. Lone_Star_Dem Jun 2013 #11
It had occurred to me that this could be an opportunity BainsBane Jun 2013 #12
I agree gollygee Jun 2013 #13
I just heard on Andrew Mitchell that BainsBane Jun 2013 #14
He could start by LWolf Jun 2013 #15
The question is not what he will do BainsBane Jun 2013 #16
What WILL you do? LWolf Jun 2013 #17
Pressure congress to change the law BainsBane Jun 2013 #20
Pressure? How? LWolf Jun 2013 #24
Phone calls, emails, letters BainsBane Jun 2013 #32
And when they ignore LWolf Jun 2013 #37
Firstly, I don't give money BainsBane Jun 2013 #46
No, that's not what I asked. LWolf Jun 2013 #47
Well my congressman is Keith Ellison BainsBane Jun 2013 #48
My Congressman is Greg Walden, LWolf Jun 2013 #49
is this one of those "make me (him) do it" things where he or his supporter cleverly puts the onus boilerbabe Jun 2013 #21
It's one of these BainsBane Jun 2013 #22
What is the Roberts Court's view of the 4th Amendment is the real question. madinmaryland Jun 2013 #27
Unfortunately, I heard today that BainsBane Jun 2013 #35
Ironically, one of the authors of the Patriot act is calling to limit the patriot act: Raine1967 Jun 2013 #29
That is good news BainsBane Jun 2013 #38
President Obama hamster Jun 2013 #30
Then he needs to get rid of Holder & put in an AG who doesn't incarcerate medical marijuana patients Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #36
Actually the Constitution needs us to have its back BainsBane Jun 2013 #40
If we want to stop pretending the 4th Amendment doesn't exist, we need to end the drug war. Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #34
Okay BainsBane Jun 2013 #39
It's pretty hard to have a discussion about what has happened to the 4A, however, without Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #42
I guess I don't see the immediate connection you do BainsBane Jun 2013 #44
Yeah, that's a natural assumption. Interestingly enough, though, if you look at the PATRIOT Act Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #51
I didn't realize that BainsBane Jun 2013 #52
Odd, innit? Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #53
The same with presidential power BainsBane Jun 2013 #54
We just need hamster Jun 2013 #41
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