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In reply to the discussion: This whole NSA story is nothing more than recycled outrage. Glenn Greenwald didn't break shit. [View all]Cha
(319,311 posts)she. Glenn is aware enough to know there are plenty out there who will eat that shit up.
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"Is it just me or does the entire news media as well as all the agitators and self-righteous bloviators on both sides of the aisle not understand even the rudiments of electronic intercepts and the manner in which law enforcement actually uses such intercepts? It would seem so."
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"The question is not should the resulting data exist. It does. And it forever will, to a greater and greater extent. And therefore, the present-day question cant seriously be this: Should law enforcement in the legitimate pursuit of criminal activity pretend that such data does not exist. The question is more fundamental: Is government accessing the data for the legitimate public safety needs of the society, or are they accessing it in ways that abuse individual liberties and violate personal privacy and in a manner that is unsupervised.
And to that, the Guardian and those who are wailing jeremiads about this pretend-discovery of
U.S. big data collection are noticeably silent. We dont know of any actual abuse. No known illegal wiretaps, no indications of FISA-court approved intercepts of innocent Americans that occurred because weak probable cause was acceptable. Mark you, that stuff may be happening. As happens the case with all law enforcement capability, it will certainly happen at some point, if it hasnt already. Any data asset that can be properly and legally invoked, can also be misused particularly without careful oversight. But that of course has always been the case with electronic surveillance of any kind.
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Much More.. Good read, she..
http://davidsimon.com/we-are-shocked-shocked/
h/t http://theobamadiary.com/2013/06/07/facts-always-win-over-feigned-outrage/