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caseymoz

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29. You mean that he was naive?

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:05 AM

Jun 2013

This isn't like learning macro-economics because you have to grasp national budget issues. This is basic and straightforward stuff, on an issue that's central to his Oath of Office, where he promises, you know, to uphold the Constitution. The Bill of Rights shouldn't trip him up.

And he's a Constitutional scholar.

If you think he approached this issue without knowing WTF he was doing, that's not consistent with his being more competent than Dubya. Quit holding him to Bush league standards. I believe Bush didn't have a grasp of what he was getting into. But Obama?

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