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Savannahmann

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42. So when it happened at the time.

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 01:24 AM

Jun 2013

Why did we give credit to the Brits for breaking the case for us?

The plan, which reportedly would have been the biggest attack on America since 9/11, was uncovered after Scotland Yard intercepted an email.

The force alerted the FBI, who launched an operation which led to airport shuttle bus driver Najibullah Zazi, 24, being charged with conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction.

And if we could already do this in 2009 under PRISM why are we spending $2 Billion for a bigger facility in Utah? I mean, if the system is up and operating, there is our food stamp money right there with enough change left over to keep Head Start going for a few more months. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/

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U.S. NSA Internet spying foiled plot to attack New York subways: Sources [View all] JaneyVee Jun 2013 OP

And the reason they need to gather intelligence on *every* American to do this is...? villager Jun 2013 #1

Haven't you heard? Savannahmann Jun 2013 #3

"Close your eyes and think of America" villager Jun 2013 #4

They intercepted an email sent by an American citizen from Denver. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #10

I find it humorous that WeekendWarrior Jun 2013 #18

Just so we're clear. Laelth Jun 2013 #61

corporations thrive on taking our information online Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #65

AFAIK, the government can examine anything that is exported, including an email. FarCenter Jun 2013 #22

He was not an American citizen. He was a "resident" of the u.s. and was born in Afghanistan. Also, okaawhatever Jun 2013 #27

They were monitoring the AQ account, but how did they connect the email to Zazi? geek tragedy Jun 2013 #28

track it back to the isp. With that they can get the warrant to identify the owner of the account. okaawhatever Jun 2013 #29

Wouldn't they need PRISM information to trace the email if they used an overseas proxy? nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #30

Link please.... sheshe2 Jun 2013 #38

They don't dennis4868 Jun 2013 #52

I want to see Glen Greenwalds kratos00 Jun 2013 #2

Something like this, maybe? randome Jun 2013 #7

Wrote about it in 2009 geek tragedy Jun 2013 #8

That's hilarious. Robb Jun 2013 #31

So what? A few hundred deaths are worth it so we don't turn into Nazi Freaking Germany! randome Jun 2013 #5

Indeed. Laelth Jun 2013 #62

We deserve it anyway for interfering in the Middle East treestar Jun 2013 #66

so that's supposed to shut us up? shanti Jun 2013 #6

Why would you think that? It's a freaking fact that warrants discussion. nm Cha Jun 2013 #33

"Government sources" went out and bought a bunch of lipstick today...... marmar Jun 2013 #9

That says more about you than the Gov. nm Cha Jun 2013 #34

Yes, it says I won't use tortured logic to defend the indefensible. marmar Jun 2013 #43

It's says you can't handle facts. Cha Jun 2013 #45

"Facts" sound suspiciously like "spin". marmar Jun 2013 #46

Clearly you can't handle facts while accusing others of spin. Cha Jun 2013 #47

Please tell me a pig's lips would not look like that Generic Other Jun 2013 #35

+100000 woo me with science Jun 2013 #55

in the immortal words of Benjamin Franklin William769 Jun 2013 #11

I agree. But those killed during a subway attack might not. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #12

in the immortal words of Thomas Jefferson William769 Jun 2013 #14

Not sure how that relates to this article, what about people who fear subway attacks? JaneyVee Jun 2013 #16

In the immortal words of Robert Green Ingersoll William769 Jun 2013 #17

Some may believe that liberty is law & order. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #19

Once again Thomas Jefferson. William769 Jun 2013 #20

Right, except when they collect Social Security & Medicare. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #21

In the immortal words of Thomas Paine. William769 Jun 2013 #23

Liberty is law & order. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #24

please show your sheeple the way sigmasix Jun 2013 #57

Your disdain for the wisdom of our founders is puzzling. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #63

It was easier in the 18th century treestar Jun 2013 #68

Liberty is never easy. William769 Jun 2013 #71

Certainly more complex now treestar Jun 2013 #72

The U.S Constitution trumps all rules. nt William769 Jun 2013 #75

Non sequitur treestar Jun 2013 #77

"Essential" liberty treestar Jun 2013 #67

I refer to the original quote. William769 Jun 2013 #73

Nonresponsive treestar Jun 2013 #76

US government sources? Well then, it's settled. I think the government is here to help. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #13

Does anyone believe them at this point? hamster Jun 2013 #15

No, tey lie all the time! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #25

Yeah, I see no reason not to trust the Cha Jun 2013 #36

Yeah, the Obama is magnanimous just like the Bush Administration just like the next administration Ed Suspicious Jun 2013 #51

and we just killed Al Qaeda's #2 again... choie Jun 2013 #26

Public Documents Contradict Claim Email Spying Foiled Terror Plot Hestia Jun 2013 #32

Because this was somewhat classified info they couldn't tell people the real way suspect was nabbed JaneyVee Jun 2013 #39

Thank you. woo me with science Jun 2013 #49

+1000000000. So much propaganda, so little time. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #69

Oh, I think it can be used to protect American citizens.. Cha Jun 2013 #37

I Have to Think RobinA Jun 2013 #40

K&R sheshe2 Jun 2013 #41

So when it happened at the time. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #42

Maybe to keep the surveillance program under wraps? JaneyVee Jun 2013 #48

My bullshit meter is pegged. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #44

Mine broke some time ago. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #70

Here comes the BULLSHIT. woo me with science Jun 2013 #50

Think DU needs a name change dennis4868 Jun 2013 #53

Opposition to dragnet surveillance of all Americans is now "hating government." woo me with science Jun 2013 #54

'You can't even parody the propaganda anymore' marmar Jun 2013 #56

Don't worry, they will change their tune LittleBlue Jun 2013 #58

At that point it'll be way too late. delrem Jun 2013 #78

They honestly believe we have become so stupid that they can throw literally anything at all Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #59

How quaint. Laelth Jun 2013 #60

Have you read this? kentuck Jun 2013 #64

Smells like yellowcake to me whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #74