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Showing Original Post only (View all)White House Invokes ‘STATE PRIVILEGE’ To HALT Inquiries Into Data Mining [View all]

Officials use little-known military and state secrets privilege as civil rights lawyers attempt to hold administration to account
The Obama administration is invoking an obscure legal privilege to avoid judicial scrutiny of its secret collection of the communications of potentially millions of Americans. Civil liberties lawyers trying to hold the administration to account through the courts for its surveillance of phone calls and emails of American citizens have been repeatedly stymied by the governments recourse to the military and state secrets privilege. The precedent, rarely used but devastating in its legal impact, allows the government to claim that it cannot be submitted to judicial oversight because to do so it would have to compromise national security.
The government has cited the privilege in two active lawsuits being heard by a federal court in the northern district of California Virginia v Barack Obama et al, and Carolyn Jewel v the National Security Agency. In both cases, the Obama administration has called for the cases to be dismissed on the grounds that the governments secret activities must remain secret. The claim comes amid a billowing furore over US surveillance on the mass communications of Americans following disclosures by the Guardian of a massive NSA monitoring programme of Verizon phone records and internet communications.
The director of national intelligence, James Clapper, has written in court filings that after careful and actual personal consideration of the matter, based upon my own knowledge and information obtained in the course of my official duties, I have determined that the disclosure of certain information would cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security of the United States. Thus, as to this information, I formally assert the state secrets privilege.
The use of the privilege has been personally approved by President Obama and several of the administrations most senior officials: in addition to Clapper, they include the director of the NSA Keith Alexander and Eric Holder, the attorney general. The attorney general has personally reviewed and approved the governments privilege assertion in these cases, legal documents state. In comments on Friday about the surveillance controversy, Obama insisted that the secret programmes were subjected not only to congressional oversight but judicial oversight. He said federal judges were looking over our shoulders. But civil liberties lawyers say that the use of the privilege to shut down legal challenges was making a mockery of such judicial oversight. Though classified information was shown to judges in camera, the citing of the precedent in the name of national security cowed judges into submission.
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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/07/white-house-invokes-state-privilege-to-halt-inquiries-into-data-mining/
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White House Invokes ‘STATE PRIVILEGE’ To HALT Inquiries Into Data Mining [View all]
Segami
Jun 2013
OP
I hear ya. I fall into this trap, myself, from time to time. And you're right, it's...
Poll_Blind
Jun 2013
#6
I am the same way -- all the time, and you are right about cognitive dissonance
BlueStreak
Jun 2013
#7
Why did they quickly shut-down the extra scrutiny given TeaBag FREAKS yet want to maintain
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jun 2013
#3
Haha. The Bush Administration used it 23 times in 5 years. Little known? Bullshit.
DevonRex
Jun 2013
#8
You did well. There are posts I learned a lot from a long-time DUers. I saved them to read again.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#22
Progressives don't need this to turn against 0bama. There's a myriad of other deceitful
byeya
Jun 2013
#39
Ah yes, ... FUDr meme 4 and 7 obfuscate the point and act like there's no difference between two
uponit7771
Jun 2013
#96
The Bush Administration did an awful that WE disapproved of. Since when did the Bush War Criminals
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#77
"this rule makes the president and his security administration into a dictatorship"
marmar
Jun 2013
#14
I, for one, am not 'fine with it' ... however, I consider the 'alternative' to be worse ...
brett_jv
Jun 2013
#20
If Congress feels a president is abusing power, they have a host of options to check him
tritsofme
Jun 2013
#23
The privilege is not obscure; the judges reviewed the documents and agreed with its assertion.
FarCenter
Jun 2013
#25
FUDr response 1 and 5; ad hominem condenscending tone and then state Obama is bad person...
uponit7771
Jun 2013
#97
Never took the bar exam. But I never sold my soul to defend twisted govt policies, either.
WinkyDink
Jun 2013
#80
Mother Jones is reporting judicial reviewers told them to blow it out their hineys.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2013
#41
Because in the intelligence business, you do not reveal your means and methods
FarCenter
Jun 2013
#36
I knew there was going to be a dust up when you found out about the state secrets privilege!
treestar
Jun 2013
#44
Nixon can only stare in slack jawed wondrous admiration from his fiery niche in Hell
kenny blankenship
Jun 2013
#79
If that's the case, don't you think the previous administration should be put on trial as well? n/t
Ian David
Jun 2013
#109
And while Bush was pResident, did you ever express the opinion that he should be impeached? n/t
Ian David
Jun 2013
#115
No thanks, I demand my civil liberties be treated as sacred and to hell with anyone who does not
TheKentuckian
Jun 2013
#71
The caps for emphasis is a nice touch. Now all you need is an ominous DA DA DUM sound.
great white snark
Jun 2013
#90
ACLU: DOJ Tells Court It's Reconsidering Secrecy Surrounding Patriot Act's Spying Powers
ProSense
Jun 2013
#100
Why not rent a blimp sporting an "Our position is indefensible" sign?
winter is coming
Jun 2013
#110