If you're OK with revelations of NSA snooping, you're part of the problem

[ConservativeDemocrat]

293. Back to the tribalism, I see...

...with a good dollop of paranoia as well. The Real Democrats™, who are much different than plain old regular Democrats, are being slammed by quote-unquote 'talking points' which are now associated with infiltrators in the Dem Party from the Republican Party.

Ohmygod! Infiltrators! Hide the womyn and children! What would happen if one of these infiltrators married a Real Democrat™ and bred? The Zombie Apocalypse most assuredly.

Snark aside, Sabrina. Let me assure you that I don't assume every hard leftist is a crackpot. If someone wants to present a cogent, factually founded argument that, say, the U.S. should have Medicare for everybody, and that the inevitable disruptions as literally one sixth of the U.S. is being remade is something we could manage to win an election through... Well, I'll be happy to listen, though perhaps a bit skeptically, since things are always harder than they look politically. Hell, even in Canada, they hated the changeover for quite some time.

If, on the other hand you want to go screaming that President Obama is an evil Corporatist™, who has "sold us out" (by doing what he said he was going to do), that we're on the brink of becoming NAZI Germany, and that Real Democrats™ are being infiltrated and called hippies (hippies?!? that is so 1960s), well I'll just wince the same way that the remaining handful of Moderate/Liberal Republicans do whenever they see crazy-eyes Bachmann on stage or listen to Rush almost singlehandedly alienate an entire new generation to Republicans (thanks Rush! megadittos!!).

"Proud Member of the Reality Based Community" is a slam against crackpots. The Republican party is full of these crackpots. People who argue by assertion. Engage in mindless tribalism. Pull false "facts" out of their ass. Pretend that they're the arbiter of who is "Real" and who RINO. Spend more time attacking members of their own party for insufficient purity than they do the opposition. Lose elections. And when caught stating something that is 180 degrees opposite of established fact, instead of being the slightest bit embarrassed, double down on the wild unsubstantiated assertions, slathering more on top.

These are also characteristics that you have exhibited in this very thread. Not liberals. Not far left liberals. Not "Real Democrats™". You.

If you want to be effective in persuading people who do not already agree with you 100%, I am not "insinuating", I am explicitly saying that you would do far better to not sound like a crackpot.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community