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Poll_Blind

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6. I hear ya. I fall into this trap, myself, from time to time. And you're right, it's...

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 01:52 AM

Jun 2013

...completely missing the real picture. I will say one thing, though: The reality of the situation causes so much cognitive dissonance, it's like people are being merciful to themselves by just jumping to the "stupid" appellation.

You know what I mean?

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White House Invokes �STATE PRIVILEGE� To HALT Inquiries Into Data Mining [View all] Segami Jun 2013 OP

Anybody who thinks Eric Holder doesn't do anything BlueStreak Jun 2013 #1

Hmm,...sounds familiar. Segami Jun 2013 #2

These are not stupid men BlueStreak Jun 2013 #4

I don't think of them as stupid men. Segami Jun 2013 #5

I hear ya. I fall into this trap, myself, from time to time. And you're right, it's... Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #6

I am the same way -- all the time, and you are right about cognitive dissonance BlueStreak Jun 2013 #7

Vile, not stupid, and this is 0bama's system of governance. byeya Jun 2013 #37

The assimilation is complete. Bwahahahaha BlueStreak Jun 2013 #65

Why did they quickly shut-down the extra scrutiny given TeaBag FREAKS yet want to maintain usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #3

Can you show when and where there was "extra scrutiny given TeaBag FREAKS" Coyotl Jun 2013 #69

Haha. The Bush Administration used it 23 times in 5 years. Little known? Bullshit. DevonRex Jun 2013 #8

But it feels soooo good. freshwest Jun 2013 #9

It must. DevonRex Jun 2013 #11

Thanks for pointing this out ... brett_jv Jun 2013 #17

+1,000 freshwest Jun 2013 #18

I've edited my post since you replied ... brett_jv Jun 2013 #21

You did well. There are posts I learned a lot from a long-time DUers. I saved them to read again. freshwest Jun 2013 #22

Progressives don't need this to turn against 0bama. There's a myriad of other deceitful byeya Jun 2013 #39

I totally agree Freddie Jun 2013 #34

Ah yes, defenses #1 and #3 -- Nothing New/The Republicans are Worse LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #46

Ah yes, ... FUDr meme 4 and 7 obfuscate the point and act like there's no difference between two uponit7771 Jun 2013 #96

This is the first post on the matter that has hooked me. pacalo Jun 2013 #67

I totally agree. I've been saying this is an obvious DevonRex Jun 2013 #85

Thanks for making me feel like I'm maybe not crazy ... brett_jv Jun 2013 #87

It makes sense to me that he would get the info Mojorabbit Jun 2013 #93

The bush administration is gone. Twofish Jun 2013 #58

The Bush Administration did an awful that WE disapproved of. Since when did the Bush War Criminals sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #77

Crying wolf must be addictive. tridim Jun 2013 #102

It's getting ridiculous. DevonRex Jun 2013 #103

Good, they ain't playin' around.. Cha Jun 2013 #10

The people who wrote the Constitution created three JDPriestly Jun 2013 #13

"this rule makes the president and his security administration into a dictatorship" marmar Jun 2013 #14

I, for one, am not 'fine with it' ... however, I consider the 'alternative' to be worse ... brett_jv Jun 2013 #20

So to make sure I understand your point. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #43

My issue is mostly in the way things are being represented in the Media brett_jv Jun 2013 #88

Bravo, JD ReRe Jun 2013 #16

If Congress feels a president is abusing power, they have a host of options to check him tritsofme Jun 2013 #23

+1000 Segami Jun 2013 #53

K&R marmar Jun 2013 #12

Pres O is now a dictator. Iliyah Jun 2013 #15

This is becoming surreal LittleBlue Jun 2013 #19

Ben Franklin once said: unhappycamper Jun 2013 #24

Thank you for remembering. Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #63

The privilege is not obscure; the judges reviewed the documents and agreed with its assertion. FarCenter Jun 2013 #25

People are just trying to make President Obama look bad hamster Jun 2013 #26

I'm sure he'll be pleased reading this. Heh. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #29

President Obama's got this. hamster Jun 2013 #30

Wow, blind love. How touching LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #47

It's not President Obama's fault hamster Jun 2013 #48

No, it's never Obama's fault LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #49

At least I have President Obama's back. hamster Jun 2013 #52

Oh you do? I was not sure about that yet... Agschmid Jun 2013 #57

So if the President was against this, you would be too? Marrah_G Jun 2013 #111

And another thing... hamster Jun 2013 #54

Sweet, more hackneyed tropes LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #105

Nope wrong. Agschmid Jun 2013 #56

yeah, chippin away. hamster Jun 2013 #61

You won't. Agschmid Jun 2013 #62

Well thank you hamster Jun 2013 #66

FUDr response 1 and 5; ad hominem condenscending tone and then state Obama is bad person... uponit7771 Jun 2013 #97

Wow, your reading comprehension is for shit. LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #106

Bravo! Blecht Jun 2013 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author hamster Jun 2013 #84

makes me wonder Niceguy1 Jun 2013 #27

Do all gov't lawyers graduate from the Faust Law School? WinkyDink Jun 2013 #28

All lawyers graduate from the Faust Law School FarCenter Jun 2013 #31

That's why God operates on Grace and not Law. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #33

I thought defense lawyers operated under "DA, DT." WinkyDink Jun 2013 #38

The defendant may tell or the evidence known to the lawyer may be clear FarCenter Jun 2013 #74

IN law school you do learn about the evidence and other privileges treestar Jun 2013 #45

Never took the bar exam. But I never sold my soul to defend twisted govt policies, either. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #80

Then you know nothing about the state secrets privilege? treestar Jun 2013 #81

So much for the "It's just mundane meta-data" defense. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #32

Maybe because the fewer people who know, the fewer chances someone will leak? randome Jun 2013 #35

Mother Jones is reporting judicial reviewers told them to blow it out their hineys. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #41

Because in the intelligence business, you do not reveal your means and methods FarCenter Jun 2013 #36

We already know the means and methods. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #42

That sounds strangely... ...familiar. Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #40

I knew there was going to be a dust up when you found out about the state secrets privilege! treestar Jun 2013 #44

President Obama's got this. hamster Jun 2013 #50

So what have you gotten out of your DU... Agschmid Jun 2013 #59

I've gotten a chance to show hamster Jun 2013 #83

Please stop... ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #113

I've only ever seen fall4anything use those words. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #73

It's ssooooooooooooooooo obvious. Puglover Jun 2013 #116

nixon Faryn Balyncd Jun 2013 #51

Nixon can only stare in slack jawed wondrous admiration from his fiery niche in Hell kenny blankenship Jun 2013 #79

Bush used it to cover up his own criminal conduct of illegally spying. Coyotl Jun 2013 #55

I'm more concerned about addressing the crimes currently being committed. Twofish Jun 2013 #64

So are the people at the NSA, FBI, DCI, White House, and DU Coyotl Jun 2013 #68

You assume wrong. Twofish Jun 2013 #78

Do you have some "crimes" to report? Please, sir, continue. Coyotl Jun 2013 #86

18 USC � 242 - Deprivation of rights under color of law Twofish Jun 2013 #91

And who are you saying is breaking the law, please continue. Coyotl Jun 2013 #94

The federal government. Twofish Jun 2013 #95

If that's the case, don't you think the previous administration should be put on trial as well? n/t Ian David Jun 2013 #109

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #114

And while Bush was pResident, did you ever express the opinion that he should be impeached? n/t Ian David Jun 2013 #115

Your concern is duly noted. n/t Ian David Jun 2013 #108

He couldn't invoke "Executive Privilege" Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #60

There is an alternative LuvLoogie Jun 2013 #70

No thanks, I demand my civil liberties be treated as sacred and to hell with anyone who does not TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #71

Only one senator voted against the Patriot Act. LuvLoogie Jun 2013 #82

Ask Sibel Edmonds about that 'little known' thingy. n/t hootinholler Jun 2013 #72

This Administration is getting more shameful everyday. morningfog Jun 2013 #76

K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #89

The caps for emphasis is a nice touch. Now all you need is an ominous DA DA DUM sound. great white snark Jun 2013 #90

This article is a joke ... brett_jv Jun 2013 #92

***THIS IS ANOTHER BS FUDR POST*** Link Inside uponit7771 Jun 2013 #98

What is FUDR ? That's another one I haven't figured out n/t Autumn Jun 2013 #99

Apparently it is anyone that doesn't immediately support every action LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #107

ACLU: DOJ Tells Court It's Reconsidering Secrecy Surrounding Patriot Act's Spying Powers ProSense Jun 2013 #100

FU, Obama. alarimer Jun 2013 #101

What Bush did was illegal, what did Obama do that was illegal? Regards uponit7771 Jun 2013 #104

Why not rent a blimp sporting an "Our position is indefensible" sign? winter is coming Jun 2013 #110

Do you have a link for when and how they invoked that in the case of this data mining? pnwmom Jun 2013 #112