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JDPriestly

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22. You know "too much about the people who want to undermine

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:54 AM

Jun 2013

our government from within"? Tell us more.

What can undermine our government more than this utterly unconstitutional program of surveillance? There can't be anything worse unless they are really, as some claim, gathering all the actual content of our electronic communications including phone calls and internet usage.

Imagine. All your Google searches being perused by nosy characters from the NSA. Isn't that the nuttiest thing you can imagine. I can't imagine anything that could undermine the government more than some members of the government spying on other members of the government in this fashion.

The repercussions are mind-boggling.

I am amazed at the lack of intelligence and imagination and understanding of those who think these revelations are unimportant. The extent of the invasion of our privacy is unacceptable.

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Obama administration threatens criminal probe for leak of NSA's surveillance of Americans. [View all] woo me with science Jun 2013 OP

Expect an example to be made of someone who betrayed his/her job. randome Jun 2013 #1

Here is what Obama promised to do about this program. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #21

whistleblowing is American. If this was bush and we had a whistleblower, then we would be dancing. roguevalley Jun 2013 #24

Doing anything that Bush did with respect to policy or prosecution of war would almost certainly be indepat Jun 2013 #42

Obama isn't doing warrantless wiretapping. That's what Bush did. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #61

How do you know their motivations? You don't even know who it was/is. morningfog Jun 2013 #38

Of course we expect it, we've seen it over and over again unfortunately. We expect the person sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #53

Unless it is illegal, people who have access to secret information need to shut-it siligut Jun 2013 #2

Funny but our founders were "loose-cannons". The health of our democracy depends on "loose-cannons". rhett o rick Jun 2013 #13

Loose-cannons aren't loose-cannons when they are founders siligut Jun 2013 #16

You know "too much about the people who want to undermine JDPriestly Jun 2013 #22

J. Edgar Hoover is NOT... ReRe Jun 2013 #32

+1 Gathering AND storing. It is the storing that is most chilling, woo me with science Jun 2013 #33

Not when they put mercymechap Jun 2013 #17

Since when is providing my phone records to the government JDPriestly Jun 2013 #23

They are providing phone numbers - mercymechap Jun 2013 #48

How do you know that? JDPriestly Jun 2013 #49

That is what is being mercymechap Jun 2013 #52

If you have my phone number, you can easily figure out JDPriestly Jun 2013 #56

Sure, if I have your number I can figure out who you are, but what reason would mercymechap Jun 2013 #62

It is not just a matter of collecting phone numbers. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #63

Why don't they just use the yellow pages? If all they need are phone numbers, I can send sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #55

Don't be inane. Impressive that you would be mercymechap Jun 2013 #57

So iow, the rapiscans were not necessary after all? Thanks. We knew that. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #59

Do you have reading comprehension problems? mercymechap Jun 2013 #60

When the classification system is abused to hide crimes. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #37

Will he make the same example he did for the Tea Party and their FAKE scandal usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #3

The FISA warrant was a classified document that was leaked and... Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #4

Your opinion of Bradley Manning is...? cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #9

Sure Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #19

They don't need a search warrant. Th1onein Jun 2013 #28

Hes more worried about the leak than following the 4th Amdmt? HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #5

It's sort of an autocratic thing. Which befits modern, corporate-friendly Presidents. villager Jun 2013 #8

but i thought this was old news. why is obama admin acting like it is something new? boilerbabe Jun 2013 #6

The policy of obtaining phone records since 2006 was known, but Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #7

oh i see. a legal technicality boilerbabe Jun 2013 #12

Not really a legal technicality...Title 18, United States Code Section 793(d) Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #18

The only reason that the information about the FISA warrant JDPriestly Jun 2013 #26

I agree with some of what u have to say Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #29

Watch this. He promised to end this program with his pen. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #30

That speech was before FISA was passed. Before it was proposed, even Recursion Jun 2013 #50

Obama's reaction is deeply disgusting to me. Demit Jun 2013 #10

Yes Sir, That's (our) My Baby Purveyor Jun 2013 #11

Is this the same Obama who trumpeted for "transparency in government"? Or, his evil twin? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #14

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #15

He promised "the most transparent administration in history." woo me with science Jun 2013 #25

That is at the heart of this entire matter. LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #36

he's trumpeted a lot of things burnodo Jun 2013 #41

3...2...1... Iliyah Jun 2013 #20

I wish he would. And I wish the Republicans would end this JDPriestly Jun 2013 #27

Stop everything. Iliyah Jun 2013 #31

Well, isn't that special. ~Dana Carvey as The Church Lady Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #34

Yeah, cause the other party will surely makes sure Iliyah Jun 2013 #35

Break the law, go to jail shawn703 Jun 2013 #39

There are requirements of political thinkers that go beyond what the law IS... sibelian Jun 2013 #40

What are you suggesting the law should be concerning disclosure of classified information? shawn703 Jun 2013 #44

BS - security clearances are often, or usually, a part of the job to keep employees on a short leash byeya Jun 2013 #43

What kind of short leash? shawn703 Jun 2013 #45

Isn't Obama telling us it's just harmless data? If so, why the pursuit of the whistleblower? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #46

Obama is saying it isn't pointed at us Recursion Jun 2013 #51

K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #47

Threatens and dam well better. As nuts as it is............ wandy Jun 2013 #54

If this happened under Bush everyone here would've cheered the whistle blower. Apophis Jun 2013 #58