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Egalitarian Thug

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59. They honestly believe we have become so stupid that they can throw literally anything at all

Reply to woo me with science (Reply #50)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 04:00 AM

Jun 2013

out there and enough of the morons will buy it that, whether it happened or not, becomes moot.

I'm not sure they're wrong.

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U.S. NSA Internet spying foiled plot to attack New York subways: Sources [View all] JaneyVee Jun 2013 OP

And the reason they need to gather intelligence on *every* American to do this is...? villager Jun 2013 #1

Haven't you heard? Savannahmann Jun 2013 #3

"Close your eyes and think of America" villager Jun 2013 #4

They intercepted an email sent by an American citizen from Denver. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #10

I find it humorous that WeekendWarrior Jun 2013 #18

Just so we're clear. Laelth Jun 2013 #61

corporations thrive on taking our information online Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #65

AFAIK, the government can examine anything that is exported, including an email. FarCenter Jun 2013 #22

He was not an American citizen. He was a "resident" of the u.s. and was born in Afghanistan. Also, okaawhatever Jun 2013 #27

They were monitoring the AQ account, but how did they connect the email to Zazi? geek tragedy Jun 2013 #28

track it back to the isp. With that they can get the warrant to identify the owner of the account. okaawhatever Jun 2013 #29

Wouldn't they need PRISM information to trace the email if they used an overseas proxy? nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #30

Link please.... sheshe2 Jun 2013 #38

They don't dennis4868 Jun 2013 #52

I want to see Glen Greenwalds kratos00 Jun 2013 #2

Something like this, maybe? randome Jun 2013 #7

Wrote about it in 2009 geek tragedy Jun 2013 #8

That's hilarious. Robb Jun 2013 #31

So what? A few hundred deaths are worth it so we don't turn into Nazi Freaking Germany! randome Jun 2013 #5

Indeed. Laelth Jun 2013 #62

We deserve it anyway for interfering in the Middle East treestar Jun 2013 #66

so that's supposed to shut us up? shanti Jun 2013 #6

Why would you think that? It's a freaking fact that warrants discussion. nm Cha Jun 2013 #33

"Government sources" went out and bought a bunch of lipstick today...... marmar Jun 2013 #9

That says more about you than the Gov. nm Cha Jun 2013 #34

Yes, it says I won't use tortured logic to defend the indefensible. marmar Jun 2013 #43

It's says you can't handle facts. Cha Jun 2013 #45

"Facts" sound suspiciously like "spin". marmar Jun 2013 #46

Clearly you can't handle facts while accusing others of spin. Cha Jun 2013 #47

Please tell me a pig's lips would not look like that Generic Other Jun 2013 #35

+100000 woo me with science Jun 2013 #55

in the immortal words of Benjamin Franklin William769 Jun 2013 #11

I agree. But those killed during a subway attack might not. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #12

in the immortal words of Thomas Jefferson William769 Jun 2013 #14

Not sure how that relates to this article, what about people who fear subway attacks? JaneyVee Jun 2013 #16

In the immortal words of Robert Green Ingersoll William769 Jun 2013 #17

Some may believe that liberty is law & order. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #19

Once again Thomas Jefferson. William769 Jun 2013 #20

Right, except when they collect Social Security & Medicare. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #21

In the immortal words of Thomas Paine. William769 Jun 2013 #23

Liberty is law & order. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #24

please show your sheeple the way sigmasix Jun 2013 #57

Your disdain for the wisdom of our founders is puzzling. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #63

It was easier in the 18th century treestar Jun 2013 #68

Liberty is never easy. William769 Jun 2013 #71

Certainly more complex now treestar Jun 2013 #72

The U.S Constitution trumps all rules. nt William769 Jun 2013 #75

Non sequitur treestar Jun 2013 #77

"Essential" liberty treestar Jun 2013 #67

I refer to the original quote. William769 Jun 2013 #73

Nonresponsive treestar Jun 2013 #76

US government sources? Well then, it's settled. I think the government is here to help. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #13

Does anyone believe them at this point? hamster Jun 2013 #15

No, tey lie all the time! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #25

Yeah, I see no reason not to trust the Cha Jun 2013 #36

Yeah, the Obama is magnanimous just like the Bush Administration just like the next administration Ed Suspicious Jun 2013 #51

and we just killed Al Qaeda's #2 again... choie Jun 2013 #26

Public Documents Contradict Claim Email Spying Foiled Terror Plot Hestia Jun 2013 #32

Because this was somewhat classified info they couldn't tell people the real way suspect was nabbed JaneyVee Jun 2013 #39

Thank you. woo me with science Jun 2013 #49

+1000000000. So much propaganda, so little time. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #69

Oh, I think it can be used to protect American citizens.. Cha Jun 2013 #37

I Have to Think RobinA Jun 2013 #40

K&R sheshe2 Jun 2013 #41

So when it happened at the time. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #42

Maybe to keep the surveillance program under wraps? JaneyVee Jun 2013 #48

My bullshit meter is pegged. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #44

Mine broke some time ago. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #70

Here comes the BULLSHIT. woo me with science Jun 2013 #50

Think DU needs a name change dennis4868 Jun 2013 #53

Opposition to dragnet surveillance of all Americans is now "hating government." woo me with science Jun 2013 #54

'You can't even parody the propaganda anymore' marmar Jun 2013 #56

Don't worry, they will change their tune LittleBlue Jun 2013 #58

At that point it'll be way too late. delrem Jun 2013 #78

They honestly believe we have become so stupid that they can throw literally anything at all Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #59

How quaint. Laelth Jun 2013 #60

Have you read this? kentuck Jun 2013 #64

Smells like yellowcake to me whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #74