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LuvNewcastle

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116. I have to confess that one reason I react

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:20 PM

Jun 2013

so negatively to you, besides your posts where you constantly spin and advocate for the status quo and all the ugliness being done by our government, is your little posts the other day about gay people. Here's a link that talks about it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113727459

I don't like you, and I don't wish to have anymore conversations with you in the future, so I'd prefer you not to respond to me. Good day.

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You want to protect us? Stop starting wars, stop bombing people in other countries [View all] cali Jun 2013 OP

Yup, this defining "National Security" as the interests of war criminals is way past it's due date. dougolat Jun 2013 #1

So, which of those things lead to the first and second world trade center attacks and geek tragedy Jun 2013 #2

First and second WTC attacks ? Hissyspit Jun 2013 #4

So, we should have an official policy of not doing anything to upset geek tragedy Jun 2013 #5

Liberal fantasy land Hissyspit Jun 2013 #6

What policies that antagonize radical Islamists would you maintain? geek tragedy Jun 2013 #7

Why are we involved in the business of other countries at all? Why did the US help to install sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #14

gee, how about drone strikes in Pakistan and other countries? cali Jun 2013 #17

I am fully aware of the US's history in the area geek tragedy Jun 2013 #33

YEP! That is why the "Terrorists" are so busy attacking Canada too! bvar22 Jun 2013 #65

You were saying? geek tragedy Jun 2013 #66

So you rationalize that we shouldnt "behave nicely" because terrorist would strike anyway? rhett o rick Jun 2013 #73

No, what I am saying is that a moral foreign policy and preventing geek tragedy Jun 2013 #74

While you may be correct that we cant know exactly why terrorists target us, rhett o rick Jun 2013 #75

We had done nothing bad to Saudi Arabia. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #78

Interesting that you use Saudi Arabia as an example. They were close family friends with the rhett o rick Jun 2013 #79

I'm sure their ultra-radical religous fanaticism had nothing to do with it. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #80

Well we have something to agree on then. It was all business IMHO. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #81

I was being sarcastic. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #82

Of course the idiots that actually did the terrorism were fanatics but those that trained rhett o rick Jun 2013 #84

Lol. We installed their oligarchy. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #101

Maybe you should read up, bro. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #102

if you believe that the SAK as it exists today Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #119

Yes, it's a lot richer than it otherwise would be due geek tragedy Jun 2013 #121

Ahh . . . we've been involved in coups, overthrows, invasions and assassinations . . . brush Jun 2013 #40

Let's take a trip in the way back machine cali Jun 2013 #10

Let's also drop the idea that every terrorist attack geek tragedy Jun 2013 #23

sorry, I don't think in your simple binary manner. cali Jun 2013 #24

US foreign policy is the ONLY cause y'all ever discuss. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #29

you mean aside from abortion, state politics, ALEC and a dozen other topics? cali Jun 2013 #36

ALEC and abortion cause terrorism? nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #43

Well, sure many of them wear american logo T-shirts, listen to american music, watch american media. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #70

Bottom line, they are saying we deserved it. treestar Jun 2013 #106

Life is much simpler when one state/country is to blame geek tragedy Jun 2013 #108

And most people in those very states, and the Islamic religion treestar Jun 2013 #110

It's left-wing Orientalism--the thinking is that geek tragedy Jun 2013 #112

Cali, you are on it. brush Jun 2013 #41

thank you kindly, but I doubt I'm educating anyone or that I'm qualified cali Jun 2013 #44

Okay. But keep posting anyway. ny brush Jun 2013 #63

Are you really so unaware . . . markpkessinger Jun 2013 #12

So 911 was our fault because we buy Saudi oil. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #26

again with the simple, binary "thought process" cali Jun 2013 #27

What causes terror attacks against the US other than evil geek tragedy Jun 2013 #32

The installation of US troops on Saudi soil in the early 90s is what sparked bin Laden >>>> Roland99 Jun 2013 #88

Yes. But, that wasn't an invasion, or abuse, or anything of the sort. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #89

It was in preparation for a war. I do believe that qualifies Roland99 Jun 2013 #91

Heh, someone willing to go out there geek tragedy Jun 2013 #92

So it was reasonable and fair of bin Laden to plan and carry out the 911 attacks? treestar Jun 2013 #107

another one that just doesn't get it...not even worth this reply Roland99 Jun 2013 #117

S.A. wanted us there treestar Jun 2013 #124

a straw man argument ? really? bowens43 Jun 2013 #103

People have claimed already geek tragedy Jun 2013 #104

9/11...9/11...9/11.... The Link Jun 2013 #3

you know it stupidicus Jun 2013 #8

LIBERAL FANTASY LAND (REALLY ?)- ruffburr Jun 2013 #9

9/11 WAS a terrorist attack FiveGoodMen Jun 2013 #90

K&R That's the bottom line, right there. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #11

I have a serious question: cali Jun 2013 #15

I think mainly it's just fear. If one is reasonably intelligent and well informed, you can't help Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #19

I think that's a good answer. Thanks. cali Jun 2013 #20

YVW. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #95

Well reasoned post brush Jun 2013 #46

TYVM. It is appreciated. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #96

Blind partisanship? The Founding Fathers feared party politics across the board. From Jefferson to sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #21

Not prescient, they had just seen it all before. We have this idea that we are more Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #94

True, they had seen it all before and clearly understood human nature. And that is why they worked sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #115

Well said, cali! n/t markpkessinger Jun 2013 #13

They used to call us "Blame America First-ers" Kurovski Jun 2013 #16

They hate us because of our actions. LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #18

Here here! nt brush Jun 2013 #47

Spot on! Myrina Jun 2013 #50

Your first paragraph is not a fair description treestar Jun 2013 #109

We have continually been meddling in the Middle East LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #113

What about reality? treestar Jun 2013 #114

I have to confess that one reason I react LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #116

This is the truth! a la izquierda Jun 2013 #22

thank you for a little bit of common sense Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #25

K&R forestpath Jun 2013 #28

A simple truth that will forever go unheeded. marmar Jun 2013 #30

Do you really think all bad people would disappear? What about Dr. Tiller's killer? graham4anything Jun 2013 #31

no and I said no such thing. and cali Jun 2013 #34

we agree to disagree on everything but "After Midnight". graham4anything Jun 2013 #35

I like brush Jun 2013 #37

it's either that, or our current approach Enrique Jun 2013 #38

It's always made perfect sense to me. K&R nt. polly7 Jun 2013 #39

It's not easy to stop Islamists from viewing the US as the Great Satan. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #42

I doubt that is as much of a factor as our history of cali Jun 2013 #45

So why did they bomb the World Trade Center in 1993? Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #49

I didn't realize the World Trade Center was in Hollywood ... Myrina Jun 2013 #51

LOL. Per your sig line, I'll leave it at that (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #53

Of course. Didn't our interference in the mideast far far pre-date 1993? cali Jun 2013 #57

We should have let Saddam keep Kuwait? Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #59

I think you need to read a wee bit more about that cali Jun 2013 #60

Yep, that's it, in a nutshell. Myrina Jun 2013 #48

Excellent post malaise Jun 2013 #52

K&R Bryn Jun 2013 #54

Sorry, not possible. Daniel537 Jun 2013 #55

+1 Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #56

They only care about protecting transnational corporate interests. We mean nothing to them, Zorra Jun 2013 #58

K&R Change has come Jun 2013 #61

I'll buy THIS for a dollar! nt Dreamer Tatum Jun 2013 #62

If anyone should be claiming "Mission Accomplished" it would be Al Queda. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #64

Looks like they got our freedomz after all! n/t leftstreet Jun 2013 #67

True. If as Junior said "they hate our freedom", then their beef with us has been put to rest. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #71

DURec leftstreet Jun 2013 #68

Can't have an empire without a police state kenny blankenship Jun 2013 #69

You got it. It's not about protecting anything but profits. Killing for dollars. raouldukelives Jun 2013 #72

We cause more than we cure, for sure . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2013 #76

K&R DeSwiss Jun 2013 #77

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #83

But Cali, this has mostly been our modus operandi since the national security state was created indepat Jun 2013 #85

"Be a little more even handed with Israel/Palestine." WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2013 #86

That won't help us against the attacks by religious fundamentalists pnwmom Jun 2013 #87

and what about the role that the U.S. played in the rise and formation cali Jun 2013 #98

We're stuck living with that huge mistake. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #118

K&R woo me with science Jun 2013 #93

One thing I really love about the reaction to the NSA revelations? Spider Jerusalem Jun 2013 #97

yes that is what bugs me. people are ok with this if they think americans are exempt, the boilerbabe Jun 2013 #100

So simple. nt Jasana Jun 2013 #99

After 911, 80% of the populace wanted to do just that treestar Jun 2013 #105

Thanks Cali. Puglover Jun 2013 #111

Thanks for the link, clearer thoughts from before "ground zero" cooled enough to walk on dougolat Jun 2013 #120

This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Jun 2013 #122

What Cali said! nt Ilsa Jun 2013 #123