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42. Doing anything that Bush did with respect to policy or prosecution of war would almost certainly be

Reply to roguevalley (Reply #24)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 01:53 PM

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wrong in the first degree.

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Obama administration threatens criminal probe for leak of NSA's surveillance of Americans. [View all] woo me with science Jun 2013 OP

Expect an example to be made of someone who betrayed his/her job. randome Jun 2013 #1

Here is what Obama promised to do about this program. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #21

whistleblowing is American. If this was bush and we had a whistleblower, then we would be dancing. roguevalley Jun 2013 #24

Doing anything that Bush did with respect to policy or prosecution of war would almost certainly be indepat Jun 2013 #42

Obama isn't doing warrantless wiretapping. That's what Bush did. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #61

How do you know their motivations? You don't even know who it was/is. morningfog Jun 2013 #38

Of course we expect it, we've seen it over and over again unfortunately. We expect the person sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #53

Unless it is illegal, people who have access to secret information need to shut-it siligut Jun 2013 #2

Funny but our founders were "loose-cannons". The health of our democracy depends on "loose-cannons". rhett o rick Jun 2013 #13

Loose-cannons aren't loose-cannons when they are founders siligut Jun 2013 #16

You know "too much about the people who want to undermine JDPriestly Jun 2013 #22

J. Edgar Hoover is NOT... ReRe Jun 2013 #32

+1 Gathering AND storing. It is the storing that is most chilling, woo me with science Jun 2013 #33

Not when they put mercymechap Jun 2013 #17

Since when is providing my phone records to the government JDPriestly Jun 2013 #23

They are providing phone numbers - mercymechap Jun 2013 #48

How do you know that? JDPriestly Jun 2013 #49

That is what is being mercymechap Jun 2013 #52

If you have my phone number, you can easily figure out JDPriestly Jun 2013 #56

Sure, if I have your number I can figure out who you are, but what reason would mercymechap Jun 2013 #62

It is not just a matter of collecting phone numbers. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #63

Why don't they just use the yellow pages? If all they need are phone numbers, I can send sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #55

Don't be inane. Impressive that you would be mercymechap Jun 2013 #57

So iow, the rapiscans were not necessary after all? Thanks. We knew that. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #59

Do you have reading comprehension problems? mercymechap Jun 2013 #60

When the classification system is abused to hide crimes. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #37

Will he make the same example he did for the Tea Party and their FAKE scandal usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #3

The FISA warrant was a classified document that was leaked and... Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #4

Your opinion of Bradley Manning is...? cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #9

Sure Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #19

They don't need a search warrant. Th1onein Jun 2013 #28

Hes more worried about the leak than following the 4th Amdmt? HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #5

It's sort of an autocratic thing. Which befits modern, corporate-friendly Presidents. villager Jun 2013 #8

but i thought this was old news. why is obama admin acting like it is something new? boilerbabe Jun 2013 #6

The policy of obtaining phone records since 2006 was known, but Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #7

oh i see. a legal technicality boilerbabe Jun 2013 #12

Not really a legal technicality...Title 18, United States Code Section 793(d) Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #18

The only reason that the information about the FISA warrant JDPriestly Jun 2013 #26

I agree with some of what u have to say Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #29

Watch this. He promised to end this program with his pen. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #30

That speech was before FISA was passed. Before it was proposed, even Recursion Jun 2013 #50

Obama's reaction is deeply disgusting to me. Demit Jun 2013 #10

Yes Sir, That's (our) My Baby Purveyor Jun 2013 #11

Is this the same Obama who trumpeted for "transparency in government"? Or, his evil twin? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #14

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #15

He promised "the most transparent administration in history." woo me with science Jun 2013 #25

That is at the heart of this entire matter. LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #36

he's trumpeted a lot of things burnodo Jun 2013 #41

3...2...1... Iliyah Jun 2013 #20

I wish he would. And I wish the Republicans would end this JDPriestly Jun 2013 #27

Stop everything. Iliyah Jun 2013 #31

Well, isn't that special. ~Dana Carvey as The Church Lady Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #34

Yeah, cause the other party will surely makes sure Iliyah Jun 2013 #35

Break the law, go to jail shawn703 Jun 2013 #39

There are requirements of political thinkers that go beyond what the law IS... sibelian Jun 2013 #40

What are you suggesting the law should be concerning disclosure of classified information? shawn703 Jun 2013 #44

BS - security clearances are often, or usually, a part of the job to keep employees on a short leash byeya Jun 2013 #43

What kind of short leash? shawn703 Jun 2013 #45

Isn't Obama telling us it's just harmless data? If so, why the pursuit of the whistleblower? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #46

Obama is saying it isn't pointed at us Recursion Jun 2013 #51

K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #47

Threatens and dam well better. As nuts as it is............ wandy Jun 2013 #54

If this happened under Bush everyone here would've cheered the whistle blower. Apophis Jun 2013 #58