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truebluegreen

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20. "The rule would change again."
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:19 PM
Jun 2013

Last edited Sat Jun 8, 2013, 05:40 PM - Edit history (1)

Not likely, since it is a political hot potato in the northern and western states where wolves exist.

Furthermore, wolves are not pests, but rather an important part of a balanced ecosystem. Before wolves were re-introduced in Yellowstone in the 90s, the park was in bad shape. The system was way out of balance with an overabundance of elk--unhealthy, and overtaxing the available range--and coyotes. After re-introduction, the coyote population plummeted, leading to a rebound of all the smaller predators, and the elk herd was culled to a smaller and healthier size, and the range itself flourished (before anyone points out that human culling could have had some of the same effects, remember that humans hunt the strongest, and wolves the weakest specimens).

Outside the park(s) the benefits can be the same. Do you know why coyotes have extended their range to all of the continental states? Or why they have become so aggressive? Historically that wasn't their range or their nature, but we wiped out the larger, faster, stronger version, that was also shyer of humans...we bred the coyote problem.

And it was largely unnecessary. I can't remember when--maybe in the 30s?--the US government started paying ranchers for predator losses. Suddenly every loss was due to predators, not to weather, or birthing problems, or anything else. Which you know is laughable if you have ever spent any time in the Rockies in the spring. But by now generations have lived with the idea that every dead calf or lamb or whatever was killed by a predator, and so all of them are "pests."

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:-( :-( :-( [View all] MoonRiver Jun 2013 OP
Damn! In_The_Wind Jun 2013 #1
Wolf lovers everywhere are in mourning. femmocrat Jun 2013 #2
What's the problem, if they are not endangered? Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #3
Because they were endangered BainsBane Jun 2013 #14
Do people eat squirrel? If not, why do they hunt them? Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #17
People do eat squirrel BainsBane Jun 2013 #18
"The rule would change again." truebluegreen Jun 2013 #20
Of course some folks eat squirrel, it's delicious. pengillian101 Jun 2013 #32
The article states that there are 6100 wolves. femmocrat Jun 2013 #33
As well as being the Constitutional Scholar President, he's also the Environmental President! kenny blankenship Jun 2013 #4
How very sickening CountAllVotes Jun 2013 #8
As good at one as the other! truebluegreen Jun 2013 #21
VERY surprised at this...nt greytdemocrat Jun 2013 #5
I would hope that state game and wildlife commissions will regulate this............. wandy Jun 2013 #6
That's all very nice but it isn't the real world life long demo Jun 2013 #9
Sorry, sometimes I forget about that real world thing. Or just don't catch more than the limit. wandy Jun 2013 #16
I'd rather have a wolf in my backyard than a coyote. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #22
Or a skunk for that matter. Long unplesant story about live trapping a skunk. NO TEXT wandy Jun 2013 #25
+1000! truebluegreen Jun 2013 #26
Ok, text........ wandy Jun 2013 #28
A drunk skunk?!? truebluegreen Jun 2013 #29
And that is the issue. MoonRiver Jun 2013 #23
cue the cowards to start lining up with their guns Skittles Jun 2013 #7
That's already begun BainsBane Jun 2013 #11
like I said Skittles Jun 2013 #13
for example BainsBane Jun 2013 #15
WTF? BainsBane Jun 2013 #10
NO, I LOVE gray wolves! :( JaneyVee Jun 2013 #12
I love wolves too and this news makes me very upset. Auntie Bush Jun 2013 #27
Yep, anything that moves and looks vulnerable. MoonRiver Jun 2013 #31
Protects the vicious, destructive predators on Wall Street, bvar22 Jun 2013 #19
Amen! MoonRiver Jun 2013 #24
kick Liberal_in_LA Jun 2013 #30
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