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1. Interesting. I had thought Congress was part of the oversight.

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Obama's NSA Defense: Says Congress Can Raise Objections, BUT it Can't as a Whole! [View all] KoKo Jun 2013 OP

Interesting. I had thought Congress was part of the oversight. Autumn Jun 2013 #1

Only the Senate Intelligence Committee and they get Gagged like under Bush... KoKo Jun 2013 #6

So lock the doors and post guards and have Congress talk to the President in private. randome Jun 2013 #2

Not Possible...it's not the way it all works with the Super Committees and all. KoKo Jun 2013 #7

Your just not getting this. If you "lock the doors" and dont let anyone in the public know what rhett o rick Jun 2013 #21

It's like civics 101 went out the window. ProSense Jun 2013 #3

It's "classified information" OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #10

So ProSense Jun 2013 #13

What are you even talking about? OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #14

What are you talking about? ProSense Jun 2013 #17

The Senate is not powerless. OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #19

Members ProSense Jun 2013 #24

Yes, blame the people who would be arrested for treason. OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #25

Can Congress impeach the President? ProSense Jun 2013 #28

So the answer is impeaching Obama? Seriously? OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #32

They couldn't speak up? Horse-shizz! They all enjoy an amazing Constitutional protection: struggle4progress Jun 2013 #4

The article explains WHY.. It's the Intelligence Commitees that are Sworn to Secrecy. KoKo Jun 2013 #8

You need to read the Constitution again: no Representative or Senator can be prosecuted struggle4progress Jun 2013 #23

According to Article 1, Section 6, they are immune from prosecution if they bring it to the floor FarCenter Jun 2013 #5

"except Treason" OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #9

See the semicolon after "same" - the immunity for speeches and debate is absolute. FarCenter Jun 2013 #12

Not that simple. OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #15

Show me a case where a Senator had been charge with treason for something said on the floor. FarCenter Jun 2013 #16

The language is not plain. OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #20

So lets have a test case. FarCenter Jun 2013 #22

Find a Senator or MOC on the Intelligence Committee willing to get prosecuted for treason. OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #26

See my #27 below struggle4progress Jun 2013 #29

(1) The charges against Manning do not include treason struggle4progress Jun 2013 #27

Interesting. Thanks for finding the case. OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #33

The court squarely addressed the issue you raised upthread, namely, the question struggle4progress Jun 2013 #35

"Squarely addressing the issue" OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #40

In the case being discussed, it would be handled as a Felony jmowreader Jun 2013 #31

Whether or not s/he would be prosecuted for comments made on the House/Senate floor, OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #34

See my #27 struggle4progress Jun 2013 #38

There's not One of them with Courage to do that, though. They answer to their Masters... KoKo Jun 2013 #11

There is plenty of blame to go around but the main blame goes to the one who did it. nt limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #18

Obama's operating within the law. If ya don't like the law, work to change it struggle4progress Jun 2013 #30

He's operating within a law HE helped to pass. Something that came close to losing him the election. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #37

The bill was a compromise during the Bush era, intended to end Bush's lawless behavior, struggle4progress Jun 2013 #39

Oh, enough of this BS. It was a bill quickly cobbled together to save the Bush administration from sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #41

We agree on several points: (1) Bush's behavior was lawless; (2) The telecoms cooperation with BUsh struggle4progress Jun 2013 #42

Is there any reason why the President wasn't aware of the members of Congress, like Ron Wyden sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #36