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KoKo

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6. Only the Senate Intelligence Committee and they get Gagged like under Bush...

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:20 PM

Jun 2013

Were you around for the Sen. Rockefeller incident where he wrote a memo in secret about how he didn't know about Iraq (I'd have to Google for Details) but it was weird thinking a Rockefeller Family Member would be gagged and was so afraid of repercussions from Iraq War that he locked away a memo he wrote.

Whatever...it's the Senate and House Intelligence Committees who are vowed to Secrecy and I thought this article addressed that issue. It has to come from that Committee but they aren't allowed to see ALL the INFO and what they see from the President is very little. Apparently when or IF they request more...they can be denied and they are bound to secrecy about all of their dealings with Intell Info and their dealings with the Agencies of Secrets ....

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Obama's NSA Defense: Says Congress Can Raise Objections, BUT it Can't as a Whole! [View all] KoKo Jun 2013 OP

Interesting. I had thought Congress was part of the oversight. Autumn Jun 2013 #1

Only the Senate Intelligence Committee and they get Gagged like under Bush... KoKo Jun 2013 #6

So lock the doors and post guards and have Congress talk to the President in private. randome Jun 2013 #2

Not Possible...it's not the way it all works with the Super Committees and all. KoKo Jun 2013 #7

Your just not getting this. If you "lock the doors" and dont let anyone in the public know what rhett o rick Jun 2013 #21

It's like civics 101 went out the window. ProSense Jun 2013 #3

It's "classified information" OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #10

So ProSense Jun 2013 #13

What are you even talking about? OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #14

What are you talking about? ProSense Jun 2013 #17

The Senate is not powerless. OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #19

Members ProSense Jun 2013 #24

Yes, blame the people who would be arrested for treason. OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #25

Can Congress impeach the President? ProSense Jun 2013 #28

So the answer is impeaching Obama? Seriously? OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #32

They couldn't speak up? Horse-shizz! They all enjoy an amazing Constitutional protection: struggle4progress Jun 2013 #4

The article explains WHY.. It's the Intelligence Commitees that are Sworn to Secrecy. KoKo Jun 2013 #8

You need to read the Constitution again: no Representative or Senator can be prosecuted struggle4progress Jun 2013 #23

According to Article 1, Section 6, they are immune from prosecution if they bring it to the floor FarCenter Jun 2013 #5

"except Treason" OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #9

See the semicolon after "same" - the immunity for speeches and debate is absolute. FarCenter Jun 2013 #12

Not that simple. OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #15

Show me a case where a Senator had been charge with treason for something said on the floor. FarCenter Jun 2013 #16

The language is not plain. OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #20

So lets have a test case. FarCenter Jun 2013 #22

Find a Senator or MOC on the Intelligence Committee willing to get prosecuted for treason. OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #26

See my #27 below struggle4progress Jun 2013 #29

(1) The charges against Manning do not include treason struggle4progress Jun 2013 #27

Interesting. Thanks for finding the case. OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #33

The court squarely addressed the issue you raised upthread, namely, the question struggle4progress Jun 2013 #35

"Squarely addressing the issue" OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #40

In the case being discussed, it would be handled as a Felony jmowreader Jun 2013 #31

Whether or not s/he would be prosecuted for comments made on the House/Senate floor, OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #34

See my #27 struggle4progress Jun 2013 #38

There's not One of them with Courage to do that, though. They answer to their Masters... KoKo Jun 2013 #11

There is plenty of blame to go around but the main blame goes to the one who did it. nt limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #18

Obama's operating within the law. If ya don't like the law, work to change it struggle4progress Jun 2013 #30

He's operating within a law HE helped to pass. Something that came close to losing him the election. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #37

The bill was a compromise during the Bush era, intended to end Bush's lawless behavior, struggle4progress Jun 2013 #39

Oh, enough of this BS. It was a bill quickly cobbled together to save the Bush administration from sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #41

We agree on several points: (1) Bush's behavior was lawless; (2) The telecoms cooperation with BUsh struggle4progress Jun 2013 #42

Is there any reason why the President wasn't aware of the members of Congress, like Ron Wyden sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #36