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In reply to the discussion: Republicans are playing Democrats like a fiddle [View all]zeemike
(18,998 posts)168. Most ot this came after the cold war.
And it has been mostly sense 2000.
But I guess if you are getting played by it you probably did not notice it.
Do you remember before the last election how a owner of a chicken sandwich place made a homophobic remark and we all lined up to boycott it, and the tea baggers lined up to buy the sandwich?....you don't realize how that played us?...it mobilized their troops.
Just watch next summer....they will use the same guns gays or god on us....my guess is that they will stir up the atheist next....and they will do something to piss off the religious people...and of course we will be encouraged to back them up.
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It's the Bush families way of getting Jeb nominated. BTW, Rand Paul is part of Team Bush.
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#2
The number of posts here faulting the President for FISA data mining that was BUSH's baby
xtraxritical
Jun 2013
#32
The article only talks about the Congressional role, and doesn't address the issue
SlimJimmy
Jun 2013
#101
Executive orders are only good for the duration of the term of the president issuing them.
Skidmore
Jun 2013
#114
I agree with you, but while the President is pushing Congress to enact legislation
SlimJimmy
Jun 2013
#115
"I believe the President wishes Congress would change the law as only Congress can."
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#120
Nope, it's realism. They know the Patriot act was passed with bipartisan majorities
pnwmom
Jun 2013
#103
When will Democrats ever learn to control the message? When will they learn to play
morningfog
Jun 2013
#6
And it STILL is unconstitutional no matter that it's happening now under OBAMA.
alarimer
Jun 2013
#178
Everybody's mining data, get used to it. Where do you think all your spam comes from?
xtraxritical
Jun 2013
#117
I think I'll remain uncomfortable with my fourth amendment rights being violated.
SlimJimmy
Jun 2013
#118
Republican spying is much much worse than Democratic spying donchyaknow.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2013
#13
The government wants this info so they can "keep you safe" and you're willing to give up
hughee99
Jun 2013
#37
And a short while ago no one was mining any of my data. They would of course
A Simple Game
Jun 2013
#42
The government continually tracking your whereabouts is not even in contention here
treestar
Jun 2013
#44
What are the limits? There lies the problem. They use super secret handshake courts
A Simple Game
Jun 2013
#57
"He does not clearly support them." BWAH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
woo me with science
Jun 2013
#141
That is bullshit, twisting, and contorting to avoid admitting that we are being screwed
GoneFishin
Jun 2013
#16
Exactly, if Democrats don't vigorously support an incipient police state then Republicans win
Fumesucker
Jun 2013
#18
And this administration is also stupidly and/or COMPLICITLY being played like a fiddle too!
cascadiance
Jun 2013
#19
But we don't have to fit the "we are all the same" partisan BSers responding to it!...
cascadiance
Jun 2013
#56
the people who were not smart were the ones to think the Bush family was stupid.
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#50
That was the way his personna was created (read Fraud by Paul Waldman).
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#73
"NSA issue wasn't as bad"? I've heard this argument recycled but it doesn't wash no matter how
GoneFishin
Jun 2013
#65
Well they've already gerrymandered the Congressional districts, so it doesn't matter.
steelmania75
Jun 2013
#39
TPM linked an article written in Bloomberg Businessweek Magazine, Nov 22, 2011..
nenagh
Jun 2013
#47
These are orchestrated turbulent times for Obama's administration, but I will
mfcorey1
Jun 2013
#106
If we are playing only politics you are right, if we are playing how do we turn this thing around
kickysnana
Jun 2013
#125