We have known since 2006 that mass domestic surveillence was going on in America..

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28. I wouldn't call it surveillance until the part where they get the warrant to listen

in with wiretaps. Just amassing the data isn't spying per se.

Everyone was fine with the idea that credit card records be mined too, for patterns of buying terrorists supposedly had.

This country is full of hypocrites - just a few years ago the public wanted this kind of thing, saying it was to protect us.

The line of hysteria that it is to spy on it is disingenuous in my book. We can say we are walking it back in the light of reason and ask Congress to repeal laws. But acting the victim of something we had nothing to do with - that's dishonest.