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16. Unrestricted ANYTHING always fails.

Sun Jun 9, 2013, 11:34 AM

Jun 2013

Somewhere along the way, decisions always need to be made that affect others, and there must checks and balances on the decision-makers. No one so benevolent as to not need them has ever been in a position of power.

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If you're unemployed, it's not because there isn't any work. [View all] MattSh Jun 2013 OP

k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #1

Naive but I'm sure it sells...nt greytdemocrat Jun 2013 #2

Why naive? 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #8

I agree...... socialist_n_TN Jun 2013 #15

+1 Go Vols Jun 2013 #33

Hell ya...... daleanime Jun 2013 #63

+1000 heaven05 Jun 2013 #20

That last sentence says it all. If you make a profit by not hiring, or by offshoring, that's a goal. freshwest Jun 2013 #71

Hell ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #84

True... That's for the Private Sovereign Wealth Barons... It's a game for them. freshwest Jun 2013 #85

To Sensible Liberals, any alternative to the status quo is naive nxylas Jun 2013 #73

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #11

It's naive because the poster buys into it NJCher Jun 2013 #39

Not exactly. MattSh Jun 2013 #49

You're right . Blanks Jun 2013 #52

If truth = naivete, then you are correct. AAO Jun 2013 #43

I take it you mean "sells" in something other than dollars. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #56

Cynical, but I'm sure . . . brush Jun 2013 #70

Actually very insightful. rucky Jun 2013 #74

You also need capital to do all of those things. Skidmore Jun 2013 #3

Don't see anything there about volunteer work. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #7

Exactly. The Ayn Randian claims that treestar Jun 2013 #28

I agree--Randians live a virtually fact-free existence. nt truebluegreen Jun 2013 #29

Just like libertarians ... they all have there heads up there proverbial arses MindMover Jun 2013 #44

Your concern ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #9

the implication seems to be that we the peoole decide how some of the capital is spent. pepperbear Jun 2013 #17

Very true. HOWEVER...... socialist_n_TN Jun 2013 #35

Capital? How about tapping the $30 trillion pscot Jun 2013 #18

Hmmm??? And how can we do that?.... socialist_n_TN Jun 2013 #23

I'm not fond of the argument, but that is essentially true bhikkhu Jun 2013 #25

Now I'm going to ask a stupid question BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #41

We all know the CCC and the WPA among other programs almost destroyed A Simple Game Jun 2013 #60

Love it. nt limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #4

Fuckin' "A", Bubba! Fuddnik Jun 2013 #5

30 some years of privatizing anything and everything JEB Jun 2013 #6

Sorry, but that's not how the bills get paid. Ikonoklast Jun 2013 #10

you pay taxes and don't expect some will go to preserving the safety and general welfare of your bettyellen Jun 2013 #19

That's one of those Randian half truths pscot Jun 2013 #27

I ignored nothing. I know exactly how fortunes were made in this nation. Ikonoklast Jun 2013 #62

Bootstraps! BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #47

You and two others completely mis-read what I posted. Ikonoklast Jun 2013 #61

You're an island! BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #64

I didn't. We started with slavery and indentured servitude with... TreasonousBastard Jun 2013 #79

It's because capitalism as an economic system is a complete failure. fasttense Jun 2013 #12

Enthusiastic Rec! BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #48

Spot on. And the primary institution that can organize this work gtar100 Jun 2013 #13

Yes, that worked very well in the Soviet Union and Communist China aristocles Jun 2013 #30

Umm, the Soviet Union was rife with corruption and money to the top from the beginning. mbperrin Jun 2013 #46

You seem to be conflating dissimilar concepts. Chan790 Jun 2013 #81

Those are extreme cases that did/do *not* work well. gtar100 Jun 2013 #82

unrestricted, illegal, immoral and unethical capitalism is a complete fail on all levels, yes. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #14

Unrestricted ANYTHING always fails. DFW Jun 2013 #16

And private enterprise is a totalitarian system. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #21

you and I are in violent agreement . unless there is any misunderstanding here. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #22

Not that I can tell DFW Jun 2013 #24

Well people can do that for free. dkf Jun 2013 #26

Robber barons & Corporations get infrastructure 'for free' leftstreet Jun 2013 #32

I doubt you would be happy with anything they did with their time. dkf Jun 2013 #36

On ayn rand-om day you'd be happy to cheer 1%ers n/t leftstreet Jun 2013 #38

omg n/t OneGrassRoot Jun 2013 #50

The $$$ is there, but it's not doing useful work. DinahMoeHum Jun 2013 #31

DURec leftstreet Jun 2013 #34

When People Get Laid Off . . FairWinds Jun 2013 #37

Eliminate the GOP, and corporatism will end BanTheGOP Jun 2013 #40

Voters eliminated the GOP in 2006 & 2008 n/t leftstreet Jun 2013 #42

Well, theoretically and in name, yes . . . . HughBeaumont Jun 2013 #55

The most oversimplified statement on DU today treestar Jun 2013 #68

I want to live in this world you speak of. Where might I find it? gtar100 Jun 2013 #83

No way. The Ruling Elite made up of corporate power own a good share of the DEmocratic Party. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #67

Sorry, but "corporatism" has both major parties in its pocket. marmar Jun 2013 #69

Let's not forget the major-funded third party that presents itself as some "viable alternative" HughBeaumont Jun 2013 #80

The 1% has guaranteed the shity employment numbers for their own sinister interests. AAO Jun 2013 #45

Cheap labor rucky Jun 2013 #75

. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #51

which is how 50 jobs for the XL Pipeline seems more important than the millions needed to fix our PatrynXX Jun 2013 #53

great point...but what about survival? FirstLight Jun 2013 #54

CORRECT Skittles Jun 2013 #57

What a brilliant correlation between the Profits trump peace mind set, and unemployment.... midnight Jun 2013 #58

I *hate* the term "unemployed". mwooldri Jun 2013 #59

The thread seems to have drawn out the libertarians. nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #65

yep, an awful lot of capitalism worship here (n/t) a2liberal Jun 2013 #72

I don't think ... david13 Jun 2013 #66

K&R for thruth! Jasana Jun 2013 #76

Having K&R'd that, I'll say this... MrMickeysMom Jun 2013 #77

It all comes back to GREED! liberal N proud Jun 2013 #78