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GoneFishin

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3. So your advice is to shut up, sit tight, don't concern yourself.

Sun Jun 9, 2013, 12:32 PM

Jun 2013

Hmmm. Well, that does sound reasonable. Let me think about it.

Before I can agree on that I'll have to confer with everyone else on this board who was confused and thought we lived in the 21st century USA. You know, land of the free, with the bill of rights and democracy and stuff like that, not a 1960s style Soviet Union. We'll also have to seek guidance from our "triangulating Rethug" handlers to see if this fits in with their plans, because obviously THEY are what this is really all about. That stuff about "invasion of privacy" and issues of "probable cause" and silly stuff like that are really none of my business. Nope. Gotta talk to the Big Boys. Oww. Just the idea of forming an opinion on my own is giving me a headache.

I'll have to get back to you. Gotta go.

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I will tell you what I've been told for many years: [View all] PCIntern Jun 2013 OP

It's not like we have much choice siligut Jun 2013 #1

So you give up RobertEarl Jun 2013 #2

you go right ahead and take them on... PCIntern Jun 2013 #4

Not kidding anyone RobertEarl Jun 2013 #7

It is that kind of apathy that has made it all possible. They WANT us to just accept it. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #26

So your advice is to shut up, sit tight, don't concern yourself. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #3

See above. PCIntern Jun 2013 #5

Thanks for the additional input. Sincerely. I understand your tone a bit better. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #9

Not even a secret. Bill Clinton signed this. nt Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #6

I think that the point isn't that they're doing it, we've known for generations that the government Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #8

If counter-terrorism will forever be an infinite resource used by the Govt, then JaneyVee Jun 2013 #10

you would be correct IMO PCIntern Jun 2013 #11

I agree, if we want this to change lets log off of DU and start taking action. Otherwise JaneyVee Jun 2013 #12

If your premise is accepted then how do electoral politics remain impactive TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #16

Very well stated. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #17

To quote someone else here, "Wow". PCIntern Jun 2013 #19

Deluded much? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #20

i'm not gonna get personal as you did... PCIntern Jun 2013 #21

You know who Frank Church is? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #22

Yes...to your condescending question... PCIntern Jun 2013 #23

So why would tearing down President Obama get anyone what they would want? graham4anything Jun 2013 #25

Carter was removed by the dirty tricks of Bush Sr. CIA's. Time for payback against that clique of leveymg Jun 2013 #51

Yes, thanks RobertEarl Jun 2013 #54

I agree with you about Obama. leveymg Jun 2013 #55

Obama needs us to rise up RobertEarl Jun 2013 #56

He's got our attention, and this is not the time to let a show of loyalty overtake our leveymg Jun 2013 #59

Fly lists RobertEarl Jun 2013 #61

That argument also raises the question 'why should we vote at all if everything is pre-determined sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #30

Beautifully said! nt Mojorabbit Jun 2013 #52

Yes, Janey, and I obviously Cha Jun 2013 #63

Yep. RevStPatrick Jun 2013 #13

I assume he did not mention which state was most closely tied to those devices. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #18

Sounds like a page out of Clancy's novel "The Sum of all Fears". roamer65 Jun 2013 #24

Well, I don't believe your friend, so I am not worried about dying a fiery death. I'm more worried sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #31

Good sheep never complain. GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #14

And bad sheep just complain on DU without taking any meaningful action? JaneyVee Jun 2013 #15

Agent Mike, is that you? Fumesucker Jun 2013 #27

How do you know what people are doing in real life? You don't, and now that we know we are being sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #34

The American people, in general, have chosen security over freedom steve2470 Jun 2013 #28

If people were capable of logical thinking, another attack would prove that all the killing and sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #37

oh I agree with you steve2470 Jun 2013 #38

I am afraid of that too. Look at this site eg, the willingness to accept what used to be sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #42

apparently Clinton's "Thin Thread" program was discarded in favor of the current setup steve2470 Jun 2013 #43

People act like big brother hasn't ever been watching. Since before WWII and probably before southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #29

Yes. You are entirely correct PCIntern Jun 2013 #32

It was changed, when people got angry enough, at least it was reigned in after the Nixon scandal. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #40

the Nixon scandal was never fully brought to fruition... PCIntern Jun 2013 #46

Now, now... roamer65 Jun 2013 #50

I'm not surprised by anything you're saying. We used to make horror movies about machines lindysalsagal Jun 2013 #33

Don't forget the NFL... PCIntern Jun 2013 #36

Right. Professional sports are a full-time substitute for millions of people who no longer really lindysalsagal Jun 2013 #39

+1 nt PCIntern Jun 2013 #41

I just covered the camera on my laptop: You've got me really PARANOID now!! lindysalsagal Jun 2013 #45

So, you've gotten yourself really paranoid now Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #69

Common knowledge. H2O Man Jun 2013 #35

I will take the longer view nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #44

Maybe you're right...I hope so. PCIntern Jun 2013 #47

No doubt in my mind nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #48

+1 villager Jun 2013 #57

FBI Carnivore system was implemented in 1997 csziggy Jun 2013 #49

Your acquaintance is absolutely correct . aristocles Jun 2013 #53

"if an individual uses certain words in a telephone conversation..." Bourne Supremacy. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #58

yeah...because there was nothing true-to-life in those books or films... PCIntern Jun 2013 #62

.. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #65

For all we know... PCIntern Jun 2013 #66

It's nothing new. I remember with old rotary dial lines you could hear clicks on the line. alphafemale Jun 2013 #60

Thanks for your OP, PC Cha Jun 2013 #64

k/r Dawson Leery Jun 2013 #67

A brutal conversation, In many respects you are correct G_j Jun 2013 #68