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56. And that's just fucking heartbreaking. Consider the possibilities

Sun Jun 9, 2013, 01:15 PM

Jun 2013

of what we as a Country could do if this ridiculous government we have would spend the time and money that this fucking new way of life they desire is costing our tax monies on the American people and programs that would benefit us all. The possibilities are endless.

I'm so fucking old I can remember when I thought of America as the land of the free and the home of the brave because that what we were taught. Now I see it's America, land of the cowed and a bunch of scared fucking wusses. That what constant threats of terror and surveillance will do.

Pretty fucking sad.

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Looks like Greenwald might have a lot more... [View all] dkf Jun 2013 OP

Good point about Ellsberg, and sad to think how many here would denounce him, if Nixon simply had... villager Jun 2013 #1

He would be in prison or hung had Nixon had that Autumn Jun 2013 #2

"We've known about the Vietnam war for years -- why is Ellsberg bringing it up now!?" villager Jun 2013 #5

Yeah and we have to have this war to keep us safe!!! Autumn Jun 2013 #7

"Ellsberg didn't vote for the President in '68!" villager Jun 2013 #31

He did it just to make Nixon look bad!!! Autumn Jun 2013 #38

"There's nothing either party can do to end the war" villager Jun 2013 #40

And that's just fucking heartbreaking. Consider the possibilities Autumn Jun 2013 #56

I'm old enough to remember thinking that if we "just elected Democrats," things would get better. villager Jun 2013 #57

Yeah. Seems like a long time ago. Autumn Jun 2013 #61

Eyes no longer wide shut? villager Jun 2013 #62

I don't know ROTFLMAO it just popped into my head Autumn Jun 2013 #73

Bullfucking shit emulatorloo Jun 2013 #4

And "Discussion" like this would rule the day... as it does now villager Jun 2013 #6

sorry.... Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #11

Wow. What is it with the jr. high school mentality of the same people apologizing for the NSA? villager Jun 2013 #12

Just pointing out Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #14

Yes. That was already pointed out in a message from DU, thanks. villager Jun 2013 #16

Transperancy Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #50

No, your "kindness" certainly has nothing to do with it at all! villager Jun 2013 #52

Hooookay. Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #58

Wait--so the alert failed? Orrex Jun 2013 #55

Miserably. Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #60

You have a nasty habit of shoving words into other people's mouth emulatorloo Jun 2013 #19

You mean, the words they use first? Though of course, I haven't actually used yours villager Jun 2013 #20

Guy. Guys. GUYS! People who want transparency are basically Stalin! Ash_F Jun 2013 #74

blahaahahaha! would you like some bargle with that yargle? nashville_brook Jun 2013 #9

In a way, the whole subthread proves my point exactly: The swarm would do its swarmiest on Ellsberg villager Jun 2013 #28

It is a thread about Glenn Greenwald's goddamned "tweets" emulatorloo Jun 2013 #41

Emulatorloo would be there dutifully swearing at those he disagreed with, calling them "Stalinist" villager Jun 2013 #45

I am more than happy to take on elitist DU'ers emulatorloo Jun 2013 #54

Oh I don't care about all that as long as I get my subsidized health care. totodeinhere Jun 2013 #22

Doubt it. But he gets paid to create controversy, more ad $$$ for Salon emulatorloo Jun 2013 #3

He created lots of controversy during the Bush years. I don't recall any complaints from the 'left' sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #8

Greenwald supported the Iraq war. JoePhilly Jun 2013 #17

So did Hillary, John Kerry, and many others burnodo Jun 2013 #23

Greenwald fully adopted Republican talking points on Benghazi. emulatorloo Jun 2013 #26

that was his point? burnodo Jun 2013 #30

He's an opportunist who will say anything to advance his agenda emulatorloo Jun 2013 #33

well that is certainly your opinion burnodo Jun 2013 #36

That is a cheep shot. zeemike Jun 2013 #72

Opportunists RobinA Jun 2013 #79

There is no point in shooting the messenger. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #85

Lol, I was waiting for the usual 'he supported the war'. You forgot to mention how he sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #42

Glad to see someone interested in the truth. Thanks! byeya Jun 2013 #51

Say it loud and long sabrina 1!!! premium Jun 2013 #68

Nice background on Greenwald. Thx. dkf Jun 2013 #80

Well said. The conservatives among us want to discredit the messenger and ignore the rhett o rick Jun 2013 #89

He writes for the U.S. edition of the Guardian. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #10

Easy girl! Generic Other Jun 2013 #13

LOL emulatorloo Jun 2013 #24

Seems he's not the only one saying it Generic Other Jun 2013 #82

he gets paid to create controversy? burnodo Jun 2013 #21

Lots of paid bloggers use melodrama/hyperbole to drive web hits. emulatorloo Jun 2013 #25

slandering them doesn't help your argument burnodo Jun 2013 #29

I'm not making an argument. And no, I do not trust libertarian bloggers who use hyperbole emulatorloo Jun 2013 #34

why do you keep calling him a blogger? burnodo Jun 2013 #37

No. He has a blog, he is a blogger. emulatorloo Jun 2013 #43

so, his being a journalist is somehow overshadowed by his ability to burnodo Jun 2013 #44

WTF why the incessant need here to put words into other people's mouths? emulatorloo Jun 2013 #47

so calling him a blogger was a term of endearment? burnodo Jun 2013 #48

Once more, WTF? emulatorloo Jun 2013 #53

Lots of paid journalists get paid to lie to the American people about wars, and such things. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #75

Boundless Informant is up today: Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #15

You need to complete your title jazzimov Jun 2013 #18

Nailed it. emulatorloo Jun 2013 #27

If you say it, it must be true! Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #35

See post #39 emulatorloo Jun 2013 #46

Why thank you! Another DU said something so it must be true! Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #49

Good article for you emulatorloo Jun 2013 #59

Have you read the Guardian article? I suggest that you do and get back to Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #63

More specifics on Greenwald use of that misinformation here emulatorloo Jun 2013 #65

Absolutely nothing in that link that refutes one thing in Greenwald's article. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #69

Lol, is that the latest talking point about Greenwald because I've seen the exact same personal sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #76

Is it going to be more stuff from 2006? JaneyVee Jun 2013 #32

I'll wait and see what he has. This sounds alot like the gop talking about the hearings okaawhatever Jun 2013 #39

You do realize he has leaked 4 NSA docs several with top secret clearance? dkf Jun 2013 #77

We'll see. I already knew about what Greenwald is claiming. Scotus looked at parts of this already. okaawhatever Jun 2013 #81

I don't email or call internationally. dkf Jun 2013 #83

This is starting to remind me of Sibel Edmonds (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #64

Except he has NSA docs dkf Jun 2013 #67

Anybody watching This Week With George Stephanopoulous? premium Jun 2013 #66

News is what somebody somewhere wants to suppress; all the rest is advertising. Lord Northcliffe Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #70

I'm sure he does. There's lots of other things the Democrats want to slip through Congress while jeff47 Jun 2013 #71

Mike Rogers Attacks Glenn Greenwald For NSA Expose: �He Doesn�t Have A Clue How This Thing Works� Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #78

I want to know what GWB knew, and when he knew it, re. 9-11. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #84

He knew enough to sit still, instead of acting as a normal POTUS would have. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #87

Greenwald has better start wearing bullet proof underwear faithnomore Jun 2013 #86

Big Brother takes umbrage at his own treachery being exposed and always claims that such indepat Jun 2013 #88