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26. Excellent point. KNR

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If we don't fix this under a Democratic President, it will never be fixed. [View all] kentuck Jun 2013 OP

Well, actually Truman signed the order creating the CIA villager Jun 2013 #1

Yes, that is true. kentuck Jun 2013 #2

Truman regretted it... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #5

Well, those regrets do little us for us now, with the MIC firmly in place. villager Jun 2013 #9

The whole mess is so institutionalized that there's little chance to change it... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #10

Dramatic change of policies indeed.... villager Jun 2013 #16

Fuck agent Mike... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #75

Democratic majorities in both houses and a Democratic President is the only way xtraxritical Jun 2013 #96

what was the context that led to the creation of the NSA? RainDog Jun 2013 #20

Always good to remind folks of Operation Paperclip villager Jun 2013 #25

I repeated a joke to a friend to describe the CIA. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #24

part of the reason he did that DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #31

Kick and REC!! Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #3

+1000 dkf Jun 2013 #4

I agree with you. Needs fixing. I also feel it would be good to have all the facts. emulatorloo Jun 2013 #6

Another reason why we need to nominate and elect Elizabeth Warren in 2016. nt Zorra Jun 2013 #7

I agree Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #8

Franklin said "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"and was talking about preventing 9-11 graham4anything Jun 2013 #11

Yes, Benjamin Franklin was talking about government spying and terrorists in jet airplanes. Marr Jun 2013 #15

Your position is that Smirk and Sneer are blameless for 9/11 because they didn't have the tools Fumesucker Jun 2013 #35

preventing 9-11 from happening again. Seems the #characters got cut off on the cut/paste graham4anything Jun 2013 #37

Absolute, unadulterated nonsense. theaocp Jun 2013 #59

Every single gun could be removed from the street, except for the NRA's interference. graham4anything Jun 2013 #60

We had enough security in place to prevent the attacks on the WTC. But for some reason they didnt rhett o rick Jun 2013 #80

The constittuion is a living breathing thing. Which means it is not set in stone. graham4anything Jun 2013 #81

I dont want anymore of Obama thank you. I want a true Democrat that wants to support rhett o rick Jun 2013 #82

Same old name calling and Ron Paul soundbytes.At least we can all agree on reintrpreting the 2nd. graham4anything Jun 2013 #85

Unlike yourself I am against all of Bush's policies that stomped on our Constitution. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #87

same soundbytes as the libertarians. Me, I want an 80-20 and have legislature pass like it did graham4anything Jun 2013 #88

And there it is. progressoid Jun 2013 #89

It is the same talking points Rand Paul/Ron Paul uses, the same Nader used. graham4anything Jun 2013 #90

And now Nader too! progressoid Jun 2013 #91

This message was self-deleted by its author graham4anything Jun 2013 #92

Security did a bang up job in Boston. nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #76

an event that 2 thrillkill fame seekers did,who planned on July 4 so they didn't even know the date graham4anything Jun 2013 #77

Fixing the CIA and their like has been tried. meanit Jun 2013 #12

Even Carter tried - +1 for Carter byeya Jun 2013 #14

...and we saw how that wound up. nt. villager Jun 2013 #33

Yup. roamer65 Jun 2013 #51

Unfortunately... 99Forever Jun 2013 #13

That is why he is going to have to make a choice with whom he stands on this issue? kentuck Jun 2013 #17

And a Senate. Fuddnik Jun 2013 #69

Not with a Republican Congress treestar Jun 2013 #18

Well, ProSense Jun 2013 #19

And if he doesn't find a way to help us (the people) fix it... kentuck Jun 2013 #22

oh, for fuck's sake RainDog Jun 2013 #32

What are the "actual concerns"? kentuck Jun 2013 #34

actual concerns are in your OP RainDog Jun 2013 #36

Oh sorry. kentuck Jun 2013 #38

that's what they do for a living Skittles Jun 2013 #62

Upton Sinclair said it best. OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #45

Well said. kentuck Jun 2013 #48

There is no, A Simple Game Jun 2013 #68

Well, ProSense Jun 2013 #70

It ain't gonna be fixed. Autumn Jun 2013 #21

Then, they will need to take the heat... kentuck Jun 2013 #23

Excellent point. KNR leveymg Jun 2013 #26

"When is the right time? If not now, when? If not us, who?� suffragette Jun 2013 #27

Well, duh. Skidmore Jun 2013 #28

People are imperfect beings. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #29

Well said, Savannahman. kentuck Jun 2013 #30

^^^THIS^^^ is a perfect example of why DU needs an individual post rec feature. Melinda Jun 2013 #79

Right, in fact I consider it marions ghost Jun 2013 #93

It will be fixed whenever there is enough uproar over it Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2013 #39

Fix it my voting in 2014 and NOT staying home nakocal Jun 2013 #40

That's not what happened. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #43

Congress needs to change the laws Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #54

The President has NO intention of changing this MNBrewer Jun 2013 #67

Progressives don't stay home. Union Scribe Jun 2013 #83

derpa derpa derp frylock Jun 2013 #97

I would be willing to bet that Obama had that discussion with..... Bonhomme Richard Jun 2013 #41

Well, it was created as part of the war effort against the "war on terror"... kentuck Jun 2013 #49

yes Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #56

You have rationalized him as a coward humbled_opinion Jun 2013 #57

It'll never be fixed. THIS IS BIPARTISAN. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #42

precisely. alterfurz Jun 2013 #58

If only we had one. forestpath Jun 2013 #44

+1. We're still waiting tblue Jun 2013 #95

It will become the baseline for future Republican presidents AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #46

The problem with this is, we apparently only "thought" we had a Democrat for a President. faithnomore Jun 2013 #47

+1000 Many here agree with what you said. RC Jun 2013 #72

even under a Democratic president DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Jun 2013 #52

You will never see "a fix" from our current power structure. roamer65 Jun 2013 #53

Agreed. k&r n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #55

It cannot be fixed until it self destructs. Imagine a boot stomping a human face forever. nt Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #61

Same could have been said at another critical point in our nation's history. Octafish Jun 2013 #63

Get it done.... Fix it.... midnight Jun 2013 #64

President Obama has said H2O Man Jun 2013 #65

Exccellent point, Waterman.. kentuck Jun 2013 #66

+1 Little Star Jun 2013 #71

You sure as hell can't even play "fix it later" by tolerating, accepting, or even supporting it TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #73

Big old K&R. nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #74

I love the sentiment, but babylonsister Jun 2013 #78

This is true. But it'll probably have to be the next one. nt Union Scribe Jun 2013 #84

Unfortunately, it won't be fixed under this particular Democratic president. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #86

We need a progressive president. nt valerief Jun 2013 #94

true, reusrename Jun 2013 #98