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In reply to the discussion: Why do we so eagerly take to woo? [View all]proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)150. Prove it. Hint, you can't. I deliberately choose not express 'opinion,' I post INFORMATION.
My posts on the subject are careful, intellectually rigorous, and also devoid of opinion (exception; Blaxill's Galileo Award op-ed). Sorry, Sid, tagging me as 'a defender of Andrew Wakefield' is not a rebuttal, it's name-calling, and SIMPLY WHAT YOU HAVE INFERRED from fact-based posts, none ban-worthy. That ought to give you serious pause. This is an example:
Here's a press release about a study recently published in a peer-reviewed journal. I added the underline in critical note #3. (FYI, Professor/Dr. John Walker-Smith is regarded as the co-founder of the field of pediatric gastroenterology with Harvard Professor/Dr. Allan Walker).
http://www.jabs.org.uk/
http://www.jabs.org.uk/
CryShame Press Release - 9 March 2013
http://www.cryshame.co.uk//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=156
Important new research ( http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0058058 ) reports similar findings to the work of Dr Andrew Wakefield in the 1998 Lancet and in subsequent paper in the early 2000s
Groundbreaking new research examines the molecular structure of inflammatory material taken from the bowels of autistic children. It compares the structure of diseased biopsies in the autistic children with biopsies from three groups of non-autistic children with Crohns disease, ulcerative colitis, and histologically normal (the controls).
Previous research confirmed the pathological and immunological make-up of biopsies of autistic children, but had not to date identified its specific molecular structure. Children with the four different conditions have been found to have similar findings of inflammation. But it was not clear if this was the same condition shared by all four groups; or if a distinct condition was specific to autistic children alone; or if indeed there was no disease in the autistic group. A molecular analysis of the genetic structure found in the inflamed bowel tissue of children in each group would provide initial answers to these questions.
To date government and medical scientists continue to deny an association between autism and bowel disease. In the UK there is currently no research into the association between autism and chronic bowel disease. This has been the predicament since the government and medical profession waged a campaign to discredit research from the Royal Free Hospital led by Dr Andrew Wakefield in 1998 and the early 2000s that first identified the presence of bowel disease in autistic children.
Following years of denial from government and the medical profession, new research published in the leading online journal PLOS ONE confirms the presence of intestinal disease in autistic children and supports reports from many parents of ongoing painful gastric problems in their autistic children.
The research studied bowel samples from 25 autistic, 8 Crohn's, 5 ulcerative colitis and 15 normal control children and found that inflammatory material obtained from the biopsies of autistic children had a distinct molecular structure that was different from the other three groups.
This is an important finding of the distinct genetic expression that has now been identified in autistic children as distinct from non-autistic children with Crohns, ulcerative colitis and normal bowels. It paves the way for future research into the specific molecular structure of the inflammation affecting autistic children and hopefully will lead to new interventions and treatment.
Background Notes
1. The first paper to bring to public attention the presence of bowel disease in autistic children was Wakefield AJ, (1998) 'Ileal-lymphoid-nodular hyperplasia, non-specific colitis, and pervasive developmental disorder in children'.The Lancet published this paper in 1998 but subsequently retracted it in 2010 after the GMC found Dr Wakefield and Professor Walker-Smith guilty of serious professional misconduct.
2. Several former colleagues went on in the early 2000s to study the nature of the bowel disease in autistic children, focusing on the pathology of gut tissue and the presence of autoimmune features in the bowel (eg Furlano et al (2001) 'Colonic CD8 and ?? T-cell infiltration with epithelial damage in children with autism', Journal of Pediatrics, Vol. 138, 3).
3. The senior research leader of the Lancet and subsequent papers was Professor John Walker-Smith who in March 2012 had all the charges of professional misconduct made by the GMC quashed on appeal by Justice Mitting in the High Court.
4. Government Minister admits more needs to be done to research autism and bowel disease. Read letter here: http://www.cryshame.co.uk//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=155&Itemid=135
http://www.plos.org/publications/journals/
http://www.plosone.org/static/information;jsessionid=7DA60CC5CF2F98E78452E6D220657239
PLOS ONE Journal Information
PLOS ONE (eISSN-1932-6203) is an international, peer-reviewed, open-access, online publication. PLOS ONE welcomes reports on primary research from any scientific discipline. It provides:
Open-accessfreely accessible online, authors retain copyright
Fast publication times
Peer review by expert, practicing researchers
Post-publication tools to indicate quality and impact
Community-based dialogue on articles
Worldwide media coverage
http://www.plosone.org/static/information;jsessionid=7DA60CC5CF2F98E78452E6D220657239
PLOS ONE Journal Information
PLOS ONE (eISSN-1932-6203) is an international, peer-reviewed, open-access, online publication. PLOS ONE welcomes reports on primary research from any scientific discipline. It provides:
Open-accessfreely accessible online, authors retain copyright
Fast publication times
Peer review by expert, practicing researchers
Post-publication tools to indicate quality and impact
Community-based dialogue on articles
Worldwide media coverage
Again, conclude what you wish. The future looks promising for sorting all this out, I'd say.
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People who believe in pseudoscience have a misalignment of their chakras.
Liberal Veteran
Jun 2013
#1
Are you conflating "homeopathy" with the term alternative medicine/ treatments?
etherealtruth
Jun 2013
#49
Did you know the federal government just approved another phen-phen type drug today?
Major Hogwash
Jun 2013
#13
Why do you repeatedly try to link/group/etc Chiropractic Medicine with Homeophathy? That's not cool.
Electric Monk
Jun 2013
#19
The latest fad (if you could call it that) in chiropractic is chiropractic for babies.
Archae
Jun 2013
#50
and then there are chiropractors like my sister's who peddle homeopathy and "kinesiology"
eShirl
Jun 2013
#140
I love how these posts always draw out the "oh, you must be a paid shill" script... (nt)
Posteritatis
Jun 2013
#105
Truthfully? I think it's a lot to do with the fact that medicine in your country costs money.
sibelian
Jun 2013
#29
Were I interested in the general subject area, here's where I'd start reading.
proverbialwisdom
Jun 2013
#121
Not true, however, the BBC recently linked to Age of Autism as one of two "Related Internet Links."
proverbialwisdom
Jun 2013
#151
It isn't always woo. Alternative practices are being used in medical facilities.
In_The_Wind
Jun 2013
#36
You know what they call alternative medicine that actually does something?
Posteritatis
Jun 2013
#104
I was told by someone I was anti science because I advocated aloe for minor burns
Puzzledtraveller
Jun 2013
#67
I'm sure you're one of those people who believe that vaccinations cause autism, aren't you?
Apophis
Jun 2013
#112
Call it what you want. My wife's chiropractor has made a postive difference for her.
SlimJimmy
Jun 2013
#111
If chiropractice is only used to treat certain bone and muscular issues, it has some use
derby378
Jun 2013
#90
Placebo effect that has lasted for a year, when the best option the others could offer
SlimJimmy
Jun 2013
#146
I didn't write this and DO NOT endorse every claim, but it rebuts the "anti-vax nutjobs" silliness.
proverbialwisdom
Jun 2013
#120
The fact that people are *still* Wakefield fanboys at this point is stunning. (nt)
Posteritatis
Jun 2013
#148
Prove it. Hint, you can't. I deliberately choose not express 'opinion,' I post INFORMATION.
proverbialwisdom
Jun 2013
#150
FYI - Out of the Mouths of Babes:"Autism is a Sickness Where Your Tummy Hurts and You Can't Talk"
proverbialwisdom
Jun 2013
#167
An MRI was unable to detect a serious problem a chiropractor solved in a single session.
Fire Walk With Me
Jun 2013
#161