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Cali_Democrat

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58. Article from 2006:

Sun Jun 9, 2013, 06:39 PM

Jun 2013

The National Security Agency has been secretly collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans, using data provided by AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth, people with direct knowledge of the arrangement told USA TODAY.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm

Yes. It's actually old news. The reason why people like yourself are going crazy AT THIS MOMENT is because the media told you to jump and you said...."how high?"

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Do you support Edward Snowden leaking the classified NSA secret program details? [View all] Logical Jun 2013 OP

Yes I do. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #1

Absolutely What our gov is doing is not only ineffective e.g. Boston Bombings it's unconstitutional usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #2

The "best" of both worlds... deurbano Jun 2013 #108

Way, way, way too early to say Recursion Jun 2013 #3

Anybody who has made up their mind already is being absurd. jschurchin Jun 2013 #17

Hogwash. 99Forever Jun 2013 #33

Yeah, you go right ahead and think that one over for awhile Downtown Hound Jun 2013 #45

Why is now to early to say? ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #49

Well, whether he actually knows what he claims, for one Recursion Jun 2013 #50

Didn't President Obama admit to the gathering of "metadata?" nt ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #52

FFS... WE'VE KNOWN THIS FOR 7 YEARS Recursion Jun 2013 #56

He's not the first whistle blower to say what he is saying. There have been a few over the past sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #112

100% nt. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #4

You bet. Th1onein Jun 2013 #5

I did not know verizon was sharing logs of every call i make markiv Jun 2013 #6

+1000! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #7

if this is ok, i think the nation owes this man an apology markiv Jun 2013 #8

I'm old enough to remember Nixon too. Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2013 #11

No knock warrants are abused beyond belief. But people put up with it. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #15

well, at least Nixon didnt dig through MY pone records markiv Jun 2013 #22

There's gotta be a prize for this. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #13

Hyperbole much?! More winger memes on DU....fudr anyone? uponit7771 Jun 2013 #43

They aren't even pretending to hide it anymore, are they? arcane1 Jun 2013 #104

+1! snot Jul 2013 #116

"I did not know verizon was sharing logs of every call i make" You have got to be kidding. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #69

I've gone back and forth on this, and finally decided it was a bad thing. Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2013 #9

I will take the risk. I do not trust the government to always use the information for good. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #10

The only bad guys who acted on the assumption that the U.S. wasn't capable of tracking Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #77

Absolutely. WestStar Jun 2013 #12

lolololololol treestar Jun 2013 #32

What does the Koolaid man say? TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #14

Or woman? n-t Logical Jun 2013 #19

Well, one dutifully reported that he gave... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2013 #26

Hey, it was as busy as... ReRe Jun 2013 #72

Was it? WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2013 #79

It was. ReRe Jun 2013 #93

And new friends were made? WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2013 #113

I wouldn't go that far... ReRe Jun 2013 #115

Civil disobedience, baby. reformist2 Jun 2013 #16

Other: Don't give a good flying fuck about Edward Snowden or this whole issue alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #18

Why, maybe he is the only reason it is an "issue"! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #21

The whole thing is overblown and boring alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #23

it bores you, yet you write on the internet about it markiv Jun 2013 #27

Boredom is a legitimate viewpoint, too. randome Jun 2013 #31

The OP asked if I support the person alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #39

Snowden didn't leak the program Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #20

Well, they why is Obama holding press conferences? n-t Logical Jun 2013 #24

Because all the media outlets acted as if it was a new bombshell story and it was all over the news Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #25

This story is a story because people did not know the details of what the NSA.... Logical Jun 2013 #29

Most details about phone record collection were already known in 2006 Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #34

If you are right then this story will have no impact. If not it will. We will see. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #37

Just because a story is recycled, it doesn't mean it cant have an impact Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #40

That's because you're invested in fiction DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #60

Fiction? Not so much.... Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #64

Yes, thank you. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #66

I'm surprised you don't similarly shut yourself down for being disingenuous Major Nikon Jun 2013 #80

There's a reason this story is making headlines worldwide DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #82

And Obama No Longer Has Credibility - His Hope And Dreams Shtick Died Long Ago cantbeserious Jun 2013 #57

And why are my Senators Wyden and Merkley upset with the spying? neverforget Jun 2013 #55

Article from 2006: Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #58

So it took them 7 years to get outraged? Got it. neverforget Jun 2013 #59

Well...I can't speak to their reaction Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #62

That doesn't explain their outrage. nt neverforget Jun 2013 #63

OK Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #65

I don't care at all about what is new and what isn't. I care immensely that it morningfog Jun 2013 #86

So how many posts did you make in 2012 about the NSA collection of phone records? Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #87

Your defense of ongoing spying on everyone in the country is sickening DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #91

Where did I defend the program? Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #94

Are you kidding? DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #97

Please link to where I said this program was necessery Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #98

Cheerlead for a totalitarian government if that makes you feel good DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #99

No link? Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #100

Not for you DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #101

Still nothing? Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #102

That's how they roll n/t arcane1 Jun 2013 #105

Yeah, I'm the good soldier. Too fucking funny. morningfog Jun 2013 #95

You didn't answer my question Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #96

Your question is irrelevant. morningfog Jun 2013 #107

So far Snowden is long on generalities and short on specifics. randome Jun 2013 #28

thank you giftedgirl77 Jun 2013 #42

The DU hurricane will pass and we'll get back to talking about pit bulls, guns & Olive Garden. randome Jun 2013 #44

Appreciate it giftedgirl77 Jun 2013 #47

How DARE you bring patient reason into this discussion!!! arcane1 Jun 2013 #106

We only found out about him, today treestar Jun 2013 #30

wait creon Jun 2013 #35

how did he get the docs from his company, 'Booz Allen Hamilton' ? Sunlei Jun 2013 #36

Without a doubt. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #38

+1 n-t Logical Jun 2013 #109

Not yes-HELL yes. liberaltrucker Jun 2013 #41

Yes. If we don't deserve privacy, than neither do the people that want to take it from us n/t. TheBadWolf Jun 2013 #46

I need more time to reach a conclusion... rubluetoo Jun 2013 #48

The question really comes down to this, should the U.S. have any secrets from its populous, and if still_one Jun 2013 #51

I support him 100% LittleBlue Jun 2013 #53

Yes - Because I No Longer Trust Obama Or The US Government - We No Longer Live In A Democracy cantbeserious Jun 2013 #54

Unequivocably.... nradisic Jun 2013 #61

+1 Logical Jun 2013 #70

I can't take a poll now. My fingernail polish is still wet. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #67

I don't know enough yet, but I admire him a lot more than Manning. grantcart Jun 2013 #68

Here's some crap on Booz Allen Hamilton; greiner3 Jun 2013 #71

Good point n-t Logical Jun 2013 #84

I do. ReRe Jun 2013 #73

Snowden broke the law. Laelth Jun 2013 #74

+ 1000 n-t Logical Jun 2013 #83

Is the goverment misusing the information? perdita9 Jun 2013 #75

You'll never know usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #88

I'm reserving judgment till I see more facts. roamer65 Jun 2013 #76

I'd have to ask why it was so secret. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #78

Snowden appears to be a sincere, honorable young man & I don't doubt his motivation pacalo Jun 2013 #81

Abso-fucking-lutely. More sunlight, please. morningfog Jun 2013 #85

Kick !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #89

I don't see how this will change 1 thing. They spy on us when we know and when we don't. They have Pisces Jun 2013 #90

good poll Liberal_in_LA Jun 2013 #92

I just heard about this today, and have no details yet. arcane1 Jun 2013 #103

sunlight is the best disinfectant.... mike_c Jun 2013 #110

I think there's more to it & Snowden isn't telling the whole story. baldguy Jun 2013 #111

They seem really upset if he is making it all up. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #114