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In reply to the discussion: PRISM was an effective program and a good balance with civil liberties. Snowden should go to jail. [View all]wandy
(3,539 posts)33. The first line might be worded a but too strongly. The rest..........
This story somewhat reminds me of the AP leak story. Yes the government seized records of journalist. However, it was in response to a leak on human intelligence in terrorist organizations. In other words, we had real people, with real families, that were inside terrorist organizations. Talented people with real families.
This also reminds me, of something else.
Ah but it's a different time, we have learned so much more. So let's all get in our wayback machine and fix our mistakes...
Prior to the disclosure of her classified CIA identity, Valerie and Joe Wilson and their twins lived in the Palisades, an affluent neighborhood of Washington, D.C., on the fringe of Georgetown.[5] After she resigned from the CIA following the disclosure of her covert status, in January 2006, they moved to Santa Fe, New Mexico[12][13] where she serves as a consultant to the Santa Fe Institute, a scientific nonprofit research institute for multidisciplinary collaborations. In a 2011 interview, Plame said she and Wilson had received threats while living in the D.C. metro area, and while she acknowledged an element of threat remains in their new home, the New Mexico location "tamps down the whole swirl."[14]
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On July 14, 2003, Washington Post journalist Robert Novak, from information obtained from Richard Armitage at the US State Department, effectively ended Valerie Plame's career with the CIA (from which she later resigned in December 2005) by revealing in his column her identity as a CIA operative.[33][34] Legal documents published in the course of the CIA leak grand jury investigation, United States v. Libby, and Congressional investigations, establish her classified employment as a covert officer for the CIA at the time that Novak's column was published in July 2003.
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On July 14, 2003, Washington Post journalist Robert Novak, from information obtained from Richard Armitage at the US State Department, effectively ended Valerie Plame's career with the CIA (from which she later resigned in December 2005) by revealing in his column her identity as a CIA operative.[33][34] Legal documents published in the course of the CIA leak grand jury investigation, United States v. Libby, and Congressional investigations, establish her classified employment as a covert officer for the CIA at the time that Novak's column was published in July 2003.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame
Hip hip hooray! They outed one of those cloke and dagger people?
Complex issues rarely come in black and white.
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PRISM was an effective program and a good balance with civil liberties. Snowden should go to jail. [View all]
BrentWil
Jun 2013
OP
+1, Not only that works for the Carlyle Group, screw that...ALL these "scandals" now look like FUDr
uponit7771
Jun 2013
#1
Bullshit, this is a democracy and we have a god damn RIGHT to decide whether we wanted this.
Kurska
Jun 2013
#2
Nobody ever promised that the cost of living in a free society wouldn't at times be very high
markpkessinger
Jun 2013
#23
There are several reportings of this. A large one in the New York Times in Aug of 2012. The problem
okaawhatever
Jun 2013
#47
We damn sure weren't okay with this during the bush administration. So why, all of a sudden,
SlimJimmy
Jun 2013
#69
Go back to your Civics lessons. This is a Democratic Republic. We ELECT PEOPLE to decide.
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#91
Actually, I'm amazed that so many are reading what is clearly contradictory information back & forth
hlthe2b
Jun 2013
#4
Snowden knows more about the actual data and processes and he sees things that are unconstitutional.
dkf
Jun 2013
#8
Do you believe his claim that any agent has "the authorities" to wiretap anyone --
pnwmom
Jun 2013
#34
He has worked there for three months and is more of a computer "repair" or "networking" person than
okaawhatever
Jun 2013
#48
Always Amazing To Me That The Privileged Can Be So Judgmental - Arrogance Must Truly Be Blissful
cantbeserious
Jun 2013
#11
Not Everyone Agrees With The Surveillance State - However Your Opinion Has Been Noted
cantbeserious
Jun 2013
#10
Diane Feinstein, thw woman whom the OP named as somebody we should trust blindly
Downtown Hound
Jun 2013
#82
Interesting that you think Snowden should go to jail. Who are you working for?
sgtbenobo
Jun 2013
#26
Both of my Senators say Congressional oversight is extremely limited and they are my democratically
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#28
Whew! Brentwil isn't concerned and we must have faith in those that protect us from whatever it is
TheKentuckian
Jun 2013
#42
Snowden is a hero and you sir or madam, do not deserve the Constitution under which you live.
Fire Walk With Me
Jun 2013
#70
"to those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, my message is this:
Douglas Carpenter
Jun 2013
#75
The guy might be mentally ill and medically non-compliant. It's just too soon to tell, really.
MADem
Jun 2013
#76
Very well said. TONS of misunderstanding about this. NO ONE is listening in on calls.
RBInMaine
Jun 2013
#77
Might One Be A Bit Gullible? - Just Because The Government Makes A Claim Does Not Make It So
cantbeserious
Jun 2013
#97
Like the way the PATRIOT Act's "special terrorism powers" are used against "terrorism"?
Warren DeMontague
Jun 2013
#89
RIP 4th Amendment. Long live the news Stasi State and its swarm of supporters.
Warren Stupidity
Jun 2013
#98