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In reply to the discussion: The argument about domestic spying isn't one the other side is having to any extent [View all]maxrandb
(17,507 posts)this program is vital to protecting our country against terrorists, and vital to stopping attacks before they can happen, and vital to finding collaborators or aides that may be assisting them.
My argument is that President Obama had his administration conduct a review of the Patriot Act, and made sure that our intelligence team were operating within the law and the Constitution.
My argument is that President Obama ensured that we have career Federal Judges and Congress in their proper oversight roles.
My argument is that President Obama did not use this law to seek "warrantless" wiretaps.
My argument is that President Obama has nominated judges to the Supreme Court and the Federal Judiciary that support strong protections of individual rights...including the right to privacy.
My argument is that the collection of phone records is behind a firewall that can only be breached with the review and approval of career federal judges, and only in cases where our national security is threatened.
My argument is that President Obama ended torture.
My argument is that President Obama and his team have put oversight safeguards in place that prevent future administrations from using this data for nefarious means.
My argument is that there are necessary programs that may make us "squishy", but that squishy feeling is nothing compared to what we would feel should a major city be vaporized.
And my "problem" is with those who scream outrageous crap like "Gestapo", or "Stalin", or "Spying" or "Illegal", or "Death Camps", or "Tracking Innocent Americans" or "Un-Constitutional", etc., when it's obvious they don't know what the hell they are talking about.