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Warren DeMontague

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89. Like the way the PATRIOT Act's "special terrorism powers" are used against "terrorism"?

Reply to BrentWil (Original post)

Sun Jun 9, 2013, 11:09 PM

Jun 2013

http://boingboing.net/2011/09/07/patriot-act-search-warrants-overwhelmingly-used-for-drugs.html

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PRISM was an effective program and a good balance with civil liberties. Snowden should go to jail. [View all] BrentWil Jun 2013 OP

+1, Not only that works for the Carlyle Group, screw that...ALL these "scandals" now look like FUDr uponit7771 Jun 2013 #1

... and DU swallowed the hook. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #16

Bullshit, this is a democracy and we have a god damn RIGHT to decide whether we wanted this. Kurska Jun 2013 #2

And if cost of complete transparency are terrorist attacks? BrentWil Jun 2013 #14

I remember Bush administration officials saying the same thing Downtown Hound Jun 2013 #19

Simply because Bush makes an argument using logic in one case... BrentWil Jun 2013 #56

There is no merit here, and there never was Downtown Hound Jun 2013 #85

Didn't Obama do what most were demanding.. BrentWil Jun 2013 #93

I really don't know who "most" is Downtown Hound Jun 2013 #105

"I remeber Bush administration officials saying the same thing" cheapdate Jun 2013 #61

Amazes me... humbled_opinion Jun 2013 #79

Maybe you meant your reply to someone else. cheapdate Jun 2013 #87

Well, it's a serious argument to me Downtown Hound Jun 2013 #83

That's better. cheapdate Jun 2013 #88

+1 BrentWil Jun 2013 #95

You just gave a +1 to a post that said: Downtown Hound Jun 2013 #108

+ a gazillion. nt Mojorabbit Jun 2013 #109

Nobody ever promised that the cost of living in a free society wouldn't at times be very high markpkessinger Jun 2013 #23

There were definitely mortal hazards in 1787. cheapdate Jun 2013 #65

Bombs were not unknown, nor was religiously motivated violence . . . markpkessinger Jun 2013 #73

True, bombs were not unknown nor was religiously motivated violence, cheapdate Jun 2013 #81

Balance? Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #35

Name the last one. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #38

very Bushian thinking burnodo Jun 2013 #44

If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. morningfog Jun 2013 #53

The government will never be able to guarantee your safety... davidn3600 Jun 2013 #67

THANK YOU! markpkessinger Jun 2013 #72

I dispute the idea of "balance" Abq_Sarah Jun 2013 #96

we're apparently willing to accept thousands of deaths annually... mike_c Jun 2013 #107

You mean the people we elected? randome Jun 2013 #20

There are several reportings of this. A large one in the New York Times in Aug of 2012. The problem okaawhatever Jun 2013 #47

And we should let an asshat like timdog44 Jun 2013 #49

+100 cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #66

We damn sure weren't okay with this during the bush administration. So why, all of a sudden, SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #69

Go back to your Civics lessons. This is a Democratic Republic. We ELECT PEOPLE to decide. KittyWampus Jun 2013 #91

"I am for more transparency in government." Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #3

Actually, I'm amazed that so many are reading what is clearly contradictory information back & forth hlthe2b Jun 2013 #4

+1000 OKNancy Jun 2013 #30

You're no fun toddaa Jun 2013 #58

Ever hear of civil disobedience??? This is it, the real thing. reformist2 Jun 2013 #5

Meh. "Better than it was in 2004" is not "awesome". Recursion Jun 2013 #6

Like "awesome" is an option. jazzimov Jun 2013 #32

Or worse than jail. A case could be made for treason. RB TexLa Jun 2013 #7

Snowden knows more about the actual data and processes and he sees things that are unconstitutional. dkf Jun 2013 #8

Brillient jehop61 Jun 2013 #15

In his opinion... BrentWil Jun 2013 #17

No. There are two cases in which they are using Privilege dkf Jun 2013 #46

Do you believe his claim that any agent has "the authorities" to wiretap anyone -- pnwmom Jun 2013 #34

How does he know what is constitutional or not? treestar Jun 2013 #40

"Snowden knows more about the actual data..." jazzimov Jun 2013 #41

I meant the process of data collection. dkf Jun 2013 #50

He has worked there for three months and is more of a computer "repair" or "networking" person than okaawhatever Jun 2013 #48

I hope you're making a good salary. Marr Jun 2013 #9

Always Amazing To Me That The Privileged Can Be So Judgmental - Arrogance Must Truly Be Blissful cantbeserious Jun 2013 #11

Not Everyone Agrees With The Surveillance State - However Your Opinion Has Been Noted cantbeserious Jun 2013 #10

What is your definition of "The Surveillance State"? jazzimov Jun 2013 #43

So you just trust the so called "warrant" process? Downtown Hound Jun 2013 #12

So you trust noone and nothing jazzimov Jun 2013 #45

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; ... cantbeserious Jun 2013 #62

Diane Feinstein, thw woman whom the OP named as somebody we should trust blindly Downtown Hound Jun 2013 #82

R#4 & K for: Nailed. n/t UTUSN Jun 2013 #13

If two warmongering senators approve bobduca Jun 2013 #18

"elected representatives" are not representing me. L0oniX Jun 2013 #21

How the hell do YOU know? MNBrewer Jun 2013 #22

From what I gather, Snowden is far better informed on PRISM ... GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #24

Thanks BrentWil.. well, he did mention he didn't expect to see home Cha Jun 2013 #25

Interesting that you think Snowden should go to jail. Who are you working for? sgtbenobo Jun 2013 #26

“Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #27

Both of my Senators say Congressional oversight is extremely limited and they are my democratically Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #28

+1 Hissyspit Jun 2013 #84

+2 Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #101

Listen, and listen carefully. nebenaube Jun 2013 #29

When the parameters of war changes shawn703 Jun 2013 #31

Oh please..... sgtbenobo Jun 2013 #39

Then we agree. N/T shawn703 Jun 2013 #60

The first line might be worded a but too strongly. The rest.......... wandy Jun 2013 #33

The Government LOVES you! "Keeping them scared" worked on you! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #36

Yep, same usual Bradley/Julian BS treestar Jun 2013 #37

Whew! Brentwil isn't concerned and we must have faith in those that protect us from whatever it is TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #42

LOL La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #51

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA boilerbabe Jun 2013 #52

*PLONK* backscatter712 Jun 2013 #54

I responded timdog44 Jun 2013 #55

Checks and Balances 90-percent Jun 2013 #57

The real danger of handing our rights over to an anonymous Government randr Jun 2013 #59

Stop conflating separate programs. jeff47 Jun 2013 #63

Wrong! LittleBlue Jun 2013 #64

The Boston bombings would seem to contradict that sentiment usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #68

There it is. Wonder what bombing victims and their families think about this? appacom Jun 2013 #78

Snowden is a hero and you sir or madam, do not deserve the Constitution under which you live. Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #70

I swear I wonder if some of these people aren't paid. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #86

if rmoney Niceguy1 Jun 2013 #71

With good reason creeksneakers2 Jun 2013 #90

if you can't Niceguy1 Jun 2013 #92

.. Liberal_in_LA Jun 2013 #74

"to those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, my message is this: Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #75

The guy might be mentally ill and medically non-compliant. It's just too soon to tell, really. MADem Jun 2013 #76

Very well said. TONS of misunderstanding about this. NO ONE is listening in on calls. RBInMaine Jun 2013 #77

Might One Be A Bit Gullible? - Just Because The Government Makes A Claim Does Not Make It So cantbeserious Jun 2013 #97

Chamblis and Feinstein agreeing isnt really a great sign. quakerboy Jun 2013 #80

Like the way the PATRIOT Act's "special terrorism powers" are used against "terrorism"? Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #89

The Cigarrette Smoking Man was a good guy Romulus Quirinus Jun 2013 #94

RIP 4th Amendment. Long live the news Stasi State and its swarm of supporters. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #98

There was no warrant for this? NT BrentWil Jun 2013 #99

Everything the Stasi State does is legal. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #106

Actually, PRISM was an illegal program. DirkGently Jun 2013 #100

Saxby and DiFi? Daniel537 Jun 2013 #102

Unrec n/t Flying Squirrel Jun 2013 #103

Yes. LWolf Jun 2013 #104