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In reply to the discussion: Don't entertain this garbage. [View all]Control-Z
(15,682 posts)20. Exactly! (nt)
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Known terrorists with US phone books starts calling random or not so random numbers ...what happens?
L0oniX
Jun 2013
#220
Pathetic. You use the word "spy" but fail utterly to define exactly what has happened and what is
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#3
And yet the OP is basically meaningless. It's telling how some love throwing the word "spy" around
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#13
You obviously have forgotten that slippery slopes get slipperier and steeper
GoneOffShore
Jun 2013
#250
Because the impact of collecting one kind of data about who you are associating with
Ms. Toad
Jun 2013
#134
Sort of the way the PATRIOT Act has been used against "dangerous terrorists", right?
Warren DeMontague
Jun 2013
#141
To have it in case a terrorist's phone happens to have access your number.
freedom fighter jh
Jun 2013
#156
You mean the way they caught the Boston Bombers? After the fact? After warnings from other
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#176
And how about this evidence - officials from at least THREE SEPARATE NATIONS
truedelphi
Jun 2013
#297
The left wants to have the rights guaranteed in the Constitution maintained.
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#261
Well, the agenda on Democratic Underground would be to NOT respond to ratfucking like Pavlov's dogs
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#16
The problem with what the NSA has and is doing is not about how much we adore PBO.
me b zola
Jun 2013
#66
If someone is tracking my phone calls, they are spying on me. If the government is doing it
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#15
Havent you been paying attention? Or are you living in a denial bubble? nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#38
Were you somewhere where you couldn't read or hear the news over the past several days?
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#57
Yes, there was actually, along with millions of other Americans. My data is my data. Unless
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#81
I know, stunning isn't it? Surely you remember the agents actually admitting that this what
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#132
Lol, I know, I noticed how quickly they picked up the rhetoric obviously prepared by
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#107
Every country does have the right to 'intelligence'. What exactly is your point? As you can see,
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#98
Of course it does, I already said that. Your 'gotcha' moments, while flattering to me that my words
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#234
No one gets a pass. The President who told us this week that he 'kept Bush's policies'
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#199
They are maintaining databases with all of our communications and searches in them.
Th1onein
Jun 2013
#56
I would HOPE every American and member here would object to any government...
Demo_Chris
Jun 2013
#93
Funny, I am NOT shocked at how many DU'ers are howling at the ringing of a ratfucking Pavlovian bell
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#14
When Bush was caught spying on the American people using the telecoms to do it, did you
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#18
Why on earth then, would Congress CHANGE the law to make his unlawful behavior legal?
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#42
There is a cowardly aspect to being willing to give up rights for a little security. There is a
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#104
So no denial that you view supporting the Constitution as a Straw Man argument?
LiberalLovinLug
Jun 2013
#245
When all the citizens' communications data is stored then we have a police state.
cui bono
Jun 2013
#139
So were they targeting actual suspects or everyone who has a Verizon account?
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#21
The whistle blowers, and apparently a FISA Court found that they were unconstitutional
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jun 2013
#28
Sometimes a person with no supportable "side" will try to draw you into an argument.
pa28
Jun 2013
#22
and if they 'suspect' two or more violent extremist could be verizon users, but...
Amonester
Jun 2013
#41
If they suspect two or more violent extremists are using a telephone, which they surely are I
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#55
Do not forget that the FBI were well aware of the Tsarnaevs and had been for years.
Fire Walk With Me
Jun 2013
#75
What you are obviously ignoring is that all the king's illegal surveillance bullshit
Fire Walk With Me
Jun 2013
#83
Actually the case of those two guys could also be used to argue the opposite ...
brett_jv
Jun 2013
#239
Not sure that 'spying' is the right word ... nor is 'spying' mentioned in the Constitution, so ...
brett_jv
Jun 2013
#240
At the very least, it seems the person being searched has to be suspected of a crime.
BlueCheese
Jun 2013
#86
They are constitutionally only allowed a warrant if they can show probable cause.
cui bono
Jun 2013
#146
K&R! I invite all DUers of true American blood, who love the Constitution, to use the *PLONK*.
backscatter712
Jun 2013
#39
If it has changed then you cowardly fucks need to put you big folks drawers on
TheKentuckian
Jun 2013
#117
So because you "don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud" and
Egalitarian Thug
Jun 2013
#236
Smith v. Maryland, 442 U.S. 735 (1979) - No warrant required for call metadata
ProSense
Jun 2013
#106
He isn't a communist. He is functioning as a totalitarian. Learn the difference.
DisgustipatedinCA
Jun 2013
#188
If the government could spy on all of us, we'd not only have 0 unemployment, we'd need more spies.
SleeplessinSoCal
Jun 2013
#115
Known terrorist with US phone book starts calling random or not so random numbers ...what happens?
L0oniX
Jun 2013
#219
If he was known, the feds can go get a fucking warrant, solely to watch what he was doing.
backscatter712
Jun 2013
#225
Actually they do need a dragnet if they want to observe what said terrorist
Schema Thing
Jun 2013
#285
Willful ignorance of actual US jurisprudence is not something I'd recommend. n/t
cheapdate
Jun 2013
#231
"unreasonable" can mean whatever the fuck the people, congress, courts, or executive interpret it
yodermon
Jun 2013
#251
K&R Some would gladly trade the 4th amendment for a smooth talking president of
forestpath
Jun 2013
#262
damn i am glad i am not the only one who is totaly creeped out by these fucking partisan apologists.
boilerbabe
Jun 2013
#273
I took my rec away so I could rec it again. Your OP can't be rec'd enough. n/t
Catherina
Jun 2013
#289
The Supreme Court ruled in 1979 that phone records are not protected by the 4th amendment
Tx4obama
Jun 2013
#307