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In reply to the discussion: Obama administration threatens criminal probe for leak of NSA's surveillance of Americans. [View all]sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)The people won that battle, the law suits, the outrage, the refusal to fly anywhere those machines were used, the reports from credible sources of the danger to people being exposed to them, which they tried to deny, finally became too much for them to continue their use. We never needed them, it was about money. Chertoff made out very well from the millions of wasted dollars so I suppose someone benefited!
You stated that all they wanted were phone numbers. Now you admit they want more than phone numbers. They are spying on the American people.
Am I a suspect or something? The 4th Amendment forbids this kind of invasion of anyone's privacy without a warrant. An INDIVIDUAL warrant. That was to ensure there was some probable cause for the invasion of someone's personal property. Last I saw, the 4th Amendment is still part of the law of the land.
So what probable cause does the government have to invade the property of millions of Americans?
YOU can be willing to 'give up rights for safety' but you have zero right to give up anyone else's rights.
And just how does spying on millions of innocent people make us safe?
All totalitarian governments have used the 'national security' excuse to justify the surveillance of their populations.
This will stop, and this period will be recorded as a very dark period in our history. It may take a while, but the rapiscans, so 'necessary' to our security, are gone now due to the outrage of the American people.
I support the Constitution of the US, it has protected us from from the government, as was intended btw, for over two centuries. We can survive a terrorist attacks, they have been around from the beginning of time, but we cannot survive as a democracy with a government that does not respect the law of the land and spies on its own people.