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ProSense

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58. Spying on Americans is still illegal

Mon Jun 10, 2013, 01:40 PM

Jun 2013

"Because his acts are legal."

Yes, his acts are legal, and here is what the President said:

Obama: PRISM Doesn’t Apply To U.S. Citizens
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022965452

Remember, his acts are legal. Now, if someone wants to challenge his actions as unconstitutional because they do not believe the President's characterization of the program, that's fine. Still, wouldn't the challenge be premised on targeting Americans?

Who is right?

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If you truly believe Obama is spying on Americans, why not call for his impeachment? [View all] ProSense Jun 2013 OP

because it's not that simple. nt LaydeeBug Jun 2013 #1

It is that simple. ProSense Jun 2013 #5

If the whole gov't is corrupt, it's foolish to pretend impeaching Obama will do anything. reformist2 Jun 2013 #45

No, really, it's not since we have a law making this legal...pretending we don't have that LaydeeBug Jun 2013 #50

If He, If He humbled_opinion Jun 2013 #60

Why not focus on solving the problem instead of playing politics? nt Th1onein Jun 2013 #2

Right, it's not like the presidency is a political institution... Deep13 Jun 2013 #12

Exactly Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #41

Wow, same two options Bush gave us. Pholus Jun 2013 #3

Oh please, ProSense Jun 2013 #7

Ja Wohl Herr Commissar, Pholus Jun 2013 #24

No, ProSense Jun 2013 #25

This entire data mining crap is a problem. Pholus Jun 2013 #26

No, that isn't what I said. n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #28

You didn't say the title of your OP? Pholus Jun 2013 #29

Here's what the OP ProSense Jun 2013 #37

If you had said something NEW after the title Pholus Jun 2013 #40

You claimed the ACLU has said it's illegal muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #44

The week has just started. think4yourself Jun 2013 #4

What has legs is a bunch of ignorant outrage. Yeah, tell us all about it. Cha Jun 2013 #13

You two are like Siamese twins think4yourself Jun 2013 #18

Your stupid personal attacks are like the ignorant outrage.. full of holes. Cha Jun 2013 #19

Well, you're right about one thing Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #35

I saw what you did there... freshwest Jun 2013 #6

Absolute power will not be impeached. wundermaus Jun 2013 #8

because not everyone is hung up with Obama as a personality Enrique Jun 2013 #9

Wait, ProSense Jun 2013 #15

Its CRITICAL to separate the issues from the politics here. napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #10

Yeah, I'm with you on the They Live analogy, actually. Although I don't think it's ET. freshwest Jun 2013 #21

Problem is, its working fo Republicans. napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #33

It's probably not a "high crime" or "misdemeanor." nt Deep13 Jun 2013 #11

Sure, mercymechap Jun 2013 #14

Don't you expect that that is in the works? iemitsu Jun 2013 #16

Demanding it of whom? ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #17

I haven't seen anyone come up with a better solution to replace the NSA files databank Tx4obama Jun 2013 #20

Impeachment? No way! Let's use this for 2014! agentS Jun 2013 #22

Yeah, but ProSense Jun 2013 #23

He possibly did... agentS Jun 2013 #30

DU has been quite amusing recently Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #27

Damn. ProSense Jun 2013 #36

You're kidding me JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #54

How about I just call on him to lead instead first - which we elected him to do The Straight Story Jun 2013 #31

"And personally, I think I would impeach most of congress and the president all at once" Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #32

Nah, I think I will wait until he starts a war based on lies Rex Jun 2013 #34

Well, Obama let confessed torturers and war criminals off... delrem Jun 2013 #38

My goodness ProSense Jun 2013 #39

There is nothing that will stop the true believers from worshiping at Obama's feet...... bowens43 Jun 2013 #42

Because Congress authorized it. . B Calm Jun 2013 #43

Or why not call for the Patriot Act Shankapotomus Jun 2013 #46

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #47

If the President does it, it's not illegal (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #48

Bait much? 99Forever Jun 2013 #49

Plus ... kill the IRS and shrink the government so we can drown it in a JoePhilly Jun 2013 #51

ProSense, as you see, people are attacking you for asking a legitimate question. Many were calling Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #52

For many DUers, it's "posting privileges before principles"... SidDithers Jun 2013 #53

Ah, ProSense... sibelian Jun 2013 #55

I'm for impeaching any President mick063 Jun 2013 #56

Because his acts are legal. Laelth Jun 2013 #57

Spying on Americans is still illegal ProSense Jun 2013 #58

Kick...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #59