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In reply to the discussion: Don't entertain this garbage. [View all]EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)233. I can think of several suggestive yet innocent
statements you could write in those overseas emails that would prove to you
your emails are being "tracked." Unfortunately most are too terrified of the system
to test it. You would be asking for a world of misery.
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Known terrorists with US phone books starts calling random or not so random numbers ...what happens?
L0oniX
Jun 2013
#220
Pathetic. You use the word "spy" but fail utterly to define exactly what has happened and what is
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#3
And yet the OP is basically meaningless. It's telling how some love throwing the word "spy" around
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#13
You obviously have forgotten that slippery slopes get slipperier and steeper
GoneOffShore
Jun 2013
#250
Because the impact of collecting one kind of data about who you are associating with
Ms. Toad
Jun 2013
#134
Sort of the way the PATRIOT Act has been used against "dangerous terrorists", right?
Warren DeMontague
Jun 2013
#141
To have it in case a terrorist's phone happens to have access your number.
freedom fighter jh
Jun 2013
#156
You mean the way they caught the Boston Bombers? After the fact? After warnings from other
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#176
And how about this evidence - officials from at least THREE SEPARATE NATIONS
truedelphi
Jun 2013
#297
The left wants to have the rights guaranteed in the Constitution maintained.
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#261
Well, the agenda on Democratic Underground would be to NOT respond to ratfucking like Pavlov's dogs
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#16
The problem with what the NSA has and is doing is not about how much we adore PBO.
me b zola
Jun 2013
#66
If someone is tracking my phone calls, they are spying on me. If the government is doing it
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#15
Havent you been paying attention? Or are you living in a denial bubble? nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#38
Were you somewhere where you couldn't read or hear the news over the past several days?
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#57
Yes, there was actually, along with millions of other Americans. My data is my data. Unless
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#81
I know, stunning isn't it? Surely you remember the agents actually admitting that this what
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#132
Lol, I know, I noticed how quickly they picked up the rhetoric obviously prepared by
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#107
Every country does have the right to 'intelligence'. What exactly is your point? As you can see,
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#98
Of course it does, I already said that. Your 'gotcha' moments, while flattering to me that my words
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#234
No one gets a pass. The President who told us this week that he 'kept Bush's policies'
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#199
They are maintaining databases with all of our communications and searches in them.
Th1onein
Jun 2013
#56
I would HOPE every American and member here would object to any government...
Demo_Chris
Jun 2013
#93
Funny, I am NOT shocked at how many DU'ers are howling at the ringing of a ratfucking Pavlovian bell
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#14
When Bush was caught spying on the American people using the telecoms to do it, did you
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#18
Why on earth then, would Congress CHANGE the law to make his unlawful behavior legal?
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#42
There is a cowardly aspect to being willing to give up rights for a little security. There is a
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#104
So no denial that you view supporting the Constitution as a Straw Man argument?
LiberalLovinLug
Jun 2013
#245
When all the citizens' communications data is stored then we have a police state.
cui bono
Jun 2013
#139
So were they targeting actual suspects or everyone who has a Verizon account?
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#21
The whistle blowers, and apparently a FISA Court found that they were unconstitutional
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jun 2013
#28
Sometimes a person with no supportable "side" will try to draw you into an argument.
pa28
Jun 2013
#22
and if they 'suspect' two or more violent extremist could be verizon users, but...
Amonester
Jun 2013
#41
If they suspect two or more violent extremists are using a telephone, which they surely are I
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#55
Do not forget that the FBI were well aware of the Tsarnaevs and had been for years.
Fire Walk With Me
Jun 2013
#75
What you are obviously ignoring is that all the king's illegal surveillance bullshit
Fire Walk With Me
Jun 2013
#83
Actually the case of those two guys could also be used to argue the opposite ...
brett_jv
Jun 2013
#239
Not sure that 'spying' is the right word ... nor is 'spying' mentioned in the Constitution, so ...
brett_jv
Jun 2013
#240
At the very least, it seems the person being searched has to be suspected of a crime.
BlueCheese
Jun 2013
#86
They are constitutionally only allowed a warrant if they can show probable cause.
cui bono
Jun 2013
#146
K&R! I invite all DUers of true American blood, who love the Constitution, to use the *PLONK*.
backscatter712
Jun 2013
#39
If it has changed then you cowardly fucks need to put you big folks drawers on
TheKentuckian
Jun 2013
#117
So because you "don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud" and
Egalitarian Thug
Jun 2013
#236
Smith v. Maryland, 442 U.S. 735 (1979) - No warrant required for call metadata
ProSense
Jun 2013
#106
He isn't a communist. He is functioning as a totalitarian. Learn the difference.
DisgustipatedinCA
Jun 2013
#188
If the government could spy on all of us, we'd not only have 0 unemployment, we'd need more spies.
SleeplessinSoCal
Jun 2013
#115
Known terrorist with US phone book starts calling random or not so random numbers ...what happens?
L0oniX
Jun 2013
#219
If he was known, the feds can go get a fucking warrant, solely to watch what he was doing.
backscatter712
Jun 2013
#225
Actually they do need a dragnet if they want to observe what said terrorist
Schema Thing
Jun 2013
#285
Willful ignorance of actual US jurisprudence is not something I'd recommend. n/t
cheapdate
Jun 2013
#231
"unreasonable" can mean whatever the fuck the people, congress, courts, or executive interpret it
yodermon
Jun 2013
#251
K&R Some would gladly trade the 4th amendment for a smooth talking president of
forestpath
Jun 2013
#262
damn i am glad i am not the only one who is totaly creeped out by these fucking partisan apologists.
boilerbabe
Jun 2013
#273
I took my rec away so I could rec it again. Your OP can't be rec'd enough. n/t
Catherina
Jun 2013
#289
The Supreme Court ruled in 1979 that phone records are not protected by the 4th amendment
Tx4obama
Jun 2013
#307