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In reply to the discussion: So, it's okay if Obama spies on the American people [View all]polynomial
(750 posts)62. This is the beginning
In understanding the Constitution is out dated. Ladies and Gentleman of America, at that time the Constitution was drawn up, the electromagnetic spectrum was in the onset and developing in its infancy. Actually just about some decade before the Calculus in math was introduced by Newton which needed to work to mature in the science just developed.
The kicker, the mathematics today is roaring along a whole lot faster than decades ago. The real change in swift progress is the new opportunity the computer mathematics with geometric interpretation is changing the whole platform in how humans move through culture, progress and understanding. This new age has a totally different approach to society then just picture books in education.
Incredible things happen before during and after a war. Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. A familiar phrase if you took a typing class using the new IBM electric typewriters in college many years ago. However the phrase still has the same great meaning or flavor as time passes?
Here, my point is many or all of the great advances are made through the College system under the covert cover in grants free tax money from the poor or middle class all or many because of the military branches seeking unique ways to improve their ways. Yes even the atom bomb, secret programs wide open in the social, quiet in some secret room in a large corporation.
Programs in new computer languages, structured under alias names to protect this asset of the one percent. Prism is likely one type of a future design, but built and shaped by talents of the special few. Hopefully, a few special people who will not become the hackers, identity thieves, or terrorist of the future on our dime.
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They made what Bush did legal, but it is still unconstitutional as is the amendment they added to
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#15
The courts have been wrong before on what is Constitutional. Why would any Democrat
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#25
sorry, it is legal. They could REINTERPRET IT, but only if ALL vote straight democratic to get a new
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#27
Who cares about silly *constitutional* details? Obama BAD BAD BAD!!!!
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#42
The constitution says that the courts have the final say on what is constitutional
bhikkhu
Jun 2013
#81
Thanks for this!! Just my opinion, but I don't think Obama is the liar here.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#41
And appointments to FISA court (Kollar-Kotelly) have been very political too...
cascadiance
Jun 2013
#87
Who gets to decide insanity or what's "certifiable"? You? Certainly not.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#43
So, I see. Because you've written stuff for 11 years, that gives you the authority to judge others
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#65
I haven't judged anybody. I said you could tell apologists by what they write.
Octafish
Jun 2013
#71
Ah, but you did my friend. The word "certifiable" says it all. And then you cut and paste
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#72
You have committed the crime of not keeping a detailed record of every asinine post or thought
Number23
Jun 2013
#75
Shame on me!! I should know better that DUers know what's best for everyone and I dare not
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#79
I don't approve. And, for a warrant to be issued, probable cause needs to be established and
byeya
Jun 2013
#9
Well we could always go back to the pre-FISA era, I dont advise it but if you want it then
cstanleytech
Jun 2013
#46
What did Obama cut out? We know what Bush did and we know he got away with it,
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#31
Sweetheart, I was calling Bushler a criminal over this and other abuses before you ever got here.
kenny blankenship
Jun 2013
#51
"I was calling Bushler a criminal over this and other abuses before you ever got here."
cstanleytech
Jun 2013
#63
All they have to do is look around and see who their "friends" are on this issue.
Peregrine Took
Jun 2013
#30
And Ari Fleischer. I'm sure we'll hear from more of the neocons who created the mess we are in
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#33
My guide is always the Constitution and the oath taken by our elected officials. When you stick
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#34
No! It is not o.k., but there's no evidence of spying on American citizens.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#40
Secret wholesale data collection, secret meetings, secret warrants, secret courts, secret judges
RC
Jun 2013
#66
Bush started the spying before the Patriot Act was passed and argued FISA slowed them too
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#82