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A few points Recursion Jun 2013 #1
You are ruining perfectly good outrage by inserting meaningful details. JoePhilly Jun 2013 #3
Direct Access Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2013 #11
They made what Bush did legal, but it is still unconstitutional as is the amendment they added to sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #15
The courts decide what is constitutional bhikkhu Jun 2013 #21
The courts have been wrong before on what is Constitutional. Why would any Democrat sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #25
sorry, it is legal. They could REINTERPRET IT, but only if ALL vote straight democratic to get a new graham4anything Jun 2013 #27
Who cares about silly *constitutional* details? Obama BAD BAD BAD!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #42
Oh I agree that the courts have made errors in rulings cstanleytech Jun 2013 #45
That is what Gonzalez said, but it is a half truth. merrily Jun 2013 #55
Usually wrongly. Deep13 Jun 2013 #77
The constitution says that the courts have the final say on what is constitutional bhikkhu Jun 2013 #81
Tell me where in the Constitution it says that. Deep13 Jun 2013 #83
Article III bhikkhu Jun 2013 #85
Art. III says no such thing. Deep13 Jun 2013 #89
Thanks for this!! Just my opinion, but I don't think Obama is the liar here. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #41
The FISA court rubber stamps, which is another problem. merrily Jun 2013 #52
Is FISA an article III court? Deep13 Jun 2013 #84
And appointments to FISA court (Kollar-Kotelly) have been very political too... cascadiance Jun 2013 #87
You should delete this silly OP and catch up to today's faux outrage. JoePhilly Jun 2013 #2
Fo rillah alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #8
It was like stepping into a time machine. JoePhilly Jun 2013 #20
lol graham4anything Jun 2013 #28
Calling people insane should go over well. Good luck. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #4
Most DUers -- going from memory, not Science® -- don't approve. Octafish Jun 2013 #5
Who gets to decide insanity or what's "certifiable"? You? Certainly not. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #43
You can check me by what I write, 11 years on DU. Octafish Jun 2013 #60
So, I see. Because you've written stuff for 11 years, that gives you the authority to judge others Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #65
I haven't judged anybody. I said you could tell apologists by what they write. Octafish Jun 2013 #71
Ah, but you did my friend. The word "certifiable" says it all. And then you cut and paste Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #72
You have committed the crime of not keeping a detailed record of every asinine post or thought Number23 Jun 2013 #75
Shame on me!! I should know better that DUers know what's best for everyone and I dare not Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #79
I don't care how many damn journals.. anyone has.. they could be writing Cha Jun 2013 #86
Noam Chomsky explained it well markiv Jun 2013 #6
+100 truebluegreen Jun 2013 #35
^^ this, for the win ^^ Myrina Jun 2013 #36
+1 Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #47
Great comment. ocpagu Jun 2013 #50
+1, except that, IMO, the spectrum of debate that the administrators permit is merrily Jun 2013 #56
I'm in complete agreement with that. LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #69
We ignore Chomsky at our peril. nt b.durruti Jun 2013 #80
Sooooooo meta. Threads on DU about DU are super awesome, yo! alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #7
word to my home-quisling bobduca Jun 2013 #10
***Cringe*** alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #12
yo, im just keepin it real for tha unda-ground, knowhutimsayin? bobduca Jun 2013 #17
I'm not offended as a fascist Quisling authoritarian alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #29
I don't approve. And, for a warrant to be issued, probable cause needs to be established and byeya Jun 2013 #9
Well we could always go back to the pre-FISA era, I dont advise it but if you want it then cstanleytech Jun 2013 #46
Only he's not. Itchinjim Jun 2013 #13
Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs! randome Jun 2013 #14
Learn about the FISA treestar Jun 2013 #16
What did Obama cut out? We know what Bush did and we know he got away with it, sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #31
It's DoublePlusGood, in fact, not just OK. kenny blankenship Jun 2013 #18
Are you and others really that dense or do you not honestly recall that cstanleytech Jun 2013 #48
Sweetheart, I was calling Bushler a criminal over this and other abuses before you ever got here. kenny blankenship Jun 2013 #51
"I was calling Bushler a criminal over this and other abuses before you ever got here." cstanleytech Jun 2013 #63
YOU KNOW IT, KENNY Skittles Jun 2013 #73
Shouldn't we all be trying to learn the facts? JNelson6563 Jun 2013 #19
This is a great comment. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #39
Yes, but first you'll have to fight the administration to get them. kenny blankenship Jun 2013 #53
What's more covert than top secret? merrily Jun 2013 #58
... Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #22
Did You See The Study Released About Who Lies The Most otohara Jun 2013 #64
Ignoring facts is a Republican trait. Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #23
Obama should be the least of your worries. You'd better monitor if your job, mfcorey1 Jun 2013 #24
I basically agree but ... jimlup Jun 2013 #26
Thank you for your reasoned response. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #44
All they have to do is look around and see who their "friends" are on this issue. Peregrine Took Jun 2013 #30
And Ari Fleischer. I'm sure we'll hear from more of the neocons who created the mess we are in sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #33
That little comment might bite them in the ass if LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #70
Obama spies.... MineralMan Jun 2013 #32
My guide is always the Constitution and the oath taken by our elected officials. When you stick sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #34
Indeed. I've taken oaths that mentioned the Constitution more than once. MineralMan Jun 2013 #38
warrantless vs warrants Sheepshank Jun 2013 #37
No! It is not o.k., but there's no evidence of spying on American citizens. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #40
Secret wholesale data collection, secret meetings, secret warrants, secret courts, secret judges RC Jun 2013 #66
Yes We Can...Spy on You NoOneMan Jun 2013 #49
americans have been spied upon.... chillfactor Jun 2013 #54
The president is not spying on you madokie Jun 2013 #57
Excellent Post - even if the Obama Apologist hate it FreakinDJ Jun 2013 #59
It's not the ProSense Jun 2013 #61
This is the beginning polynomial Jun 2013 #62
Are you kidding me? david13 Jun 2013 #67
good video from TYT AsahinaKimi Jun 2013 #68
Bush was doing warrantless wiretapping. Obama isn't. pnwmom Jun 2013 #74
No, both suck. nt Deep13 Jun 2013 #76
exactly. batshit. nt boilerbabe Jun 2013 #78
Bush started the spying before the Patriot Act was passed and argued FISA slowed them too Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #82
tssk. ForeignandDomestic Jun 2013 #88
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