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The government also has the capability of setting fire to your house. randome Jun 2013 #1
Wow. Just wow. Laelth Jun 2013 #2
They may respond with terrorist attacks, which is why there was probably a better way to achieve JaneyVee Jun 2013 #3
Too late now. The cat is out of the bag. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #5
Yeah, meanwhile he flees to China and I'm living in the #1 terrorist target on planet Earth. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #12
You may be right to be concerned. Laelth Jun 2013 #60
"#1 terrorist target on planet Earth." Are you posting from Baghdad? Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #83
Blinded by American Exceptionalism, bvar22 Jun 2013 #100
CORRECT!!! Skittles Jun 2013 #112
exactly-- America is VERY safe overall. Don't give into the fear! NoMoreWarNow Jun 2013 #120
When all your actions are war like nineteen50 Jun 2013 #42
I admit to a good deal of shame ... Laelth Jun 2013 #89
That's for diplomats to worry about. Not me. randome Jun 2013 #6
Too late now. The cat's out of the bag. Laelth Jun 2013 #9
It's an interesting news item. randome Jun 2013 #10
That it is. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #59
I reported on the Austrian reaction from Der Standard, JDPriestly Jun 2013 #95
Thanks for that. I will take a look. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #97
given your dim view of our rights -- why do want to live here? nashville_brook Jun 2013 #15
'Rights' mean different things to different people. randome Jun 2013 #23
Ignorance is bliss and nineteen50 Jun 2013 #44
If you are a Verizon customer, you KNOW you are being spied on. morningfog Jun 2013 #57
What constitutes 'spying'? Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #115
Of course not. The difference is consent and purpose. morningfog Jun 2013 #116
Well, our own "secret court" already ruled PRISM broke the law. DirkGently Jun 2013 #26
The case is still winding its way through the system. randome Jun 2013 #27
No. The ruling PRISM was illegal is done. What's "winding it's way through DirkGently Jun 2013 #28
I don't quite follow the article you linked to. randome Jun 2013 #38
In 2011, PRISM was found to be violating the Constitution. DirkGently Jun 2013 #48
Snowden may have forced their hand on being more forthcoming. randome Jun 2013 #49
You are getting sloppy. Understandably, these are hard to blindly defend morningfog Jun 2013 #56
If you are looking for calling patterns, how would you pull only the numbers you want... randome Jun 2013 #65
You start with a suspect or person of interest that you can morningfog Jun 2013 #73
It's not likely they can set fire to it with out your knowing about it. Besides, it would'nt be them corkhead Jun 2013 #64
But they could do that at any time. The only thing that prevents them are laws. randome Jun 2013 #66
Americans should have no worry assuming all involved, including contractors, are assiduously honest, indepat Jun 2013 #92
Like it or not, we would not be able to function without trusting the bureaucracy a little. randome Jun 2013 #94
Trust has to be earned. So far our NSA has not proven its JDPriestly Jun 2013 #96
I would not have a problem with anything you suggested. randome Jun 2013 #109
The government also has the capability of collecting all the data you've ever produced... dkf Jun 2013 #103
The UK has been using Prism for years HipChick Jun 2013 #4
Indeed. As I said in the OP, we probably told our allies. Laelth Jun 2013 #7
The level of surveillance in Europe would horrify most Americans Recursion Jun 2013 #67
You're right, of course. Laelth Jun 2013 #69
If this gets other countries to move to a more decentralized Internet, great Recursion Jun 2013 #70
The UK govt is saying that it's not circumventing UK law by using PRISM muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #93
Excellent post. Thanks. Laelth Jun 2013 #98
So...that makes it better? burnodo Jun 2013 #118
I took an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States. Laelth Jun 2013 #121
Hi burnodo Jun 2013 #122
Whoops. Sorry, but thanks for the kick. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #123
Like all my foreign relatives are using a jail telephone to talk to me Generic Other Jun 2013 #8
Good analogy. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #110
It's also important because he makes it *real* - now people are interested and will follow the story reformist2 Jun 2013 #11
It's an important discussion for us to have. Laelth Jun 2013 #30
It's not too late to cut way back on internet/phone use. I think it's the only solution, actually. reformist2 Jun 2013 #41
I suppose. Laelth Jun 2013 #50
Someone leaked this information to Greenwald. We all should be concerned about that. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #13
No one seems concerned that a person who lives in a foreign country now holds classified info. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #14
Exactly!! That's what is so disconcerning. We're not paying attention to the real story here. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #72
i think Obama would agree that the Constitution is bigger than he is. nashville_brook Jun 2013 #17
He agrees and so do I. Unlike others who somehow think that the president's intentions are evil Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #76
+1 Well said. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #90
I have no desire to "beat up" on the President. Laelth Jun 2013 #18
Yep. You've been around long enough to know that it's ALWAYS about the president... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #75
The right wants to make it about Obama, no doubt. Laelth Jun 2013 #77
I work for the federal government, so believe me, I'm very concerned about security. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #82
You are quite mistaken. Coyotl Jun 2013 #16
Frankly, I hope you are right. That's better than the alternative. Laelth Jun 2013 #19
The next thing you know there will be x-ray machines and pat downs at airports Major Nikon Jun 2013 #21
I don't always blame Obama Coyotl Jun 2013 #22
For most of us, this isn't about Obama. Laelth Jun 2013 #25
Read the OPs that attack Obama endlessly here on DU. JoePhilly Jun 2013 #31
There are some of those, yes. Laelth Jun 2013 #34
He is the president nineteen50 Jun 2013 #51
Actually, the nudie scanners were Obama's doing. Laelth Jun 2013 #24
I went through airport security with a ankle boot almost 2 years ago davidpdx Jun 2013 #32
Well perhaps OBAMA should not have been so frigging stupid... TheMadMonk Jun 2013 #46
I still think he can make lemonade from this lemon. Laelth Jun 2013 #52
Congress did that, not Obama, when they passed retroactive immunity. Coyotl Jun 2013 #74
It wasn't right then nineteen50 Jun 2013 #47
Agree with most of this Glenn Beck morphed into Greenwald flamingdem Jun 2013 #68
Yea if it's Bush's programs kwolf68 Jun 2013 #104
Let's see, to change the laws signed by Bush, Obama only needs the cooperation of Republicans Coyotl Jun 2013 #108
du rec. xchrom Jun 2013 #20
Thanks. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #87
Another blow to the world's opinion of us CanonRay Jun 2013 #29
It is an excellent point about our arrogance on the world stage BlueStreak Jun 2013 #33
I suspect Secretary Kerry is very, very busy at the moment. Laelth Jun 2013 #35
You mean Kerry, right? But it is an interesting question about Clinton as well BlueStreak Jun 2013 #39
Sorry. Yes, of course. Let me correct that, if I can. Laelth Jun 2013 #43
I wonder whether her resignation had anything to do with this. Laelth Jun 2013 #45
I doubt it. That would suppose that she is against it, and that is doubtful. BlueStreak Jun 2013 #78
Spot on. I do not disagree with a word you wrote. Laelth Jun 2013 #80
Democracy or Fascism Octafish Jun 2013 #36
A much better choice, I think most of us would agree. Laelth Jun 2013 #99
The PTB are getting hot under the collar as we reach the Tipping Point or whatever it is. Octafish Jun 2013 #105
Correction FairWinds Jun 2013 #37
On this topic (actual spying capability) I remain cautious. Laelth Jun 2013 #119
I guess Bradley will soon have some company... AAO Jun 2013 #40
The stuggle 4 secrecy has already begun the character assassination of Snowden. morningfog Jun 2013 #58
The word "Echelon" ring a bell? This type of activity has been around for years. TxVietVet Jun 2013 #53
Perhaps so. Laelth Jun 2013 #54
Well said sikofit3 Jun 2013 #55
Thanks. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #84
The big deal is that the Chinese are better at espionage. sofa king Jun 2013 #61
Very interesting perspective. Laelth Jun 2013 #71
What if we're spending the money.... sofa king Jun 2013 #79
That's always a possibility. Laelth Jun 2013 #81
The new cover of Time seems prescient. Laelth Jun 2013 #88
I think the Chinese would let him expend the more general weaker intel. roamer65 Jun 2013 #102
Unfortunately, some narcissistic troublemakers in Philadeplphia leaked the 4th Amendment. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #62
Hehe. Well said. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #63
LOL woo me with science Jun 2013 #85
Be sure to read Daniel Ellsberg's editorial on the Snowden leak. Laelth Jun 2013 #86
if we weren't so rich and powerful, we'd be shunned. Sheri Jun 2013 #91
You may be right about that. Laelth Jun 2013 #117
Well here's to Aerows Jun 2013 #101
Thanks, I guess? Laelth Jun 2013 #106
You're welcome n/t Aerows Jun 2013 #107
Thank you for thinking about that litlle "rest of the world" BelgianMadCow Jun 2013 #111
I would not blame you one bit. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #113
... echoes of George Orwell LVZ Jun 2013 #114
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