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TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 08:59 PM Jun 2013

The Government is not spying on us. Private Contractors are. Who here thinks that's okay? [View all]

These are not government agencies, government employees. They are private citizens who then sell the information to the government.

I'd like to know exactly what Blackwater (or equivalent) is contracted to do. What is the agreement about what information they have access to, how much of it they are required to hand over and what tasty tidbits they may be keeping for themselves.

Edited to add today's headline story from Huffington Post: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/10/nsa-leak-contractors_n_3418876.html?1370919691
NSA Leak Highlights Key Role Of Private Contractors]

But critics say reliance on contractors hasn't reduced the amount the government spends on defense, intelligence or other programs. Rather, they say it's just shifted work to private employers and reduced transparency. It becomes harder to track the work of those employees and determine whether they should all have access to government secrets.

"It's very difficult to know what contractors are doing and what they are billing for the work – or even whether they should be performing the work at all," said Scott Amey, an expert in contractor oversight and government transparency at Project on Government Oversight, a non-partisan government accountability organization based in Washington. "It has muddied the waters."
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I think it was the WashPo who did a special report Top Secret America NightWatcher Jun 2013 #1
The private contractors are not "selling information to the government" FarCenter Jun 2013 #2
That's what I thought, too. randome Jun 2013 #3
So who is gathering the information? TalkingDog Jun 2013 #4
The information is being gathered by the systems that they build and operate FarCenter Jun 2013 #6
Perhaps "sell" wasn't technically correct. But taking money for gathering information TalkingDog Jun 2013 #15
It doesn't matter. david13 Jun 2013 #5
No, the contractors are providing IT support. jeff47 Jun 2013 #7
If the corporate contractors are doing as Far Center states Uncle Joe Jun 2013 #9
Access jeff47 Jun 2013 #16
They're setting it up, there are more private corporate contractors than government Uncle Joe Jun 2013 #18
No, because your plan requires these conglomerates to cooperate jeff47 Jun 2013 #19
There is no reason as to why two major conglomerates, Uncle Joe Jun 2013 #21
Yes, there is. jeff47 Jun 2013 #23
"Price fixing" IS sharing and that's happened on numerous occasions, two or more conglomerates Uncle Joe Jun 2013 #26
They weren't competing for the same customers when they price fixed. jeff47 Jun 2013 #28
In some cases they were competing for the same customers. Uncle Joe Jun 2013 #30
One correction to my post #21 Uncle Joe Jun 2013 #22
And the point I was making is the guy mopping the floor in a TS facility has a TS clearance. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2013 #24
Google intelligence analyst jobs. private contractors neverforget Jun 2013 #11
The OP's claim is that all the spying is being done by contractors. jeff47 Jun 2013 #17
I'm an Occupier. The government has been proven to be spying upon us. FBI, DHS, etc. Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #8
there's something very eerie about the deniers Skittles Jun 2013 #10
Definitely :( Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #13
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #20
Ditto. We need to remember, snot Jun 2013 #27
What do you expect anyone HERE to DO about it? Today? Tomorrow? Next week? CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #25
I expect people here to learn about it and to spread the message far and wide. I expect Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #31
I don't want the government or the contractors they hire to spy on us. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #12
Of courses it's the government Abq_Sarah Jun 2013 #14
hey if Feinstein, Reid and a guy named Saxby says its ok... bobduca Jun 2013 #29
NO. Please stop spreading false info. jazzimov Jun 2013 #32
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