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naragdaban

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18. Iran is not looking to "get rid of the US".

Sat Feb 11, 2012, 03:38 PM

Feb 2012

I think it's disingenuous to accuse Iran of trying to stoke the flames of war. Who really wants war? Is it the Iranians, or is it the warmongers in the US? The Iranians know that a war with the US would be a disaster.

If they really wanted to piss of the US and start a war, they could do a number of provacative things. The Iranians could mount an attack on the American forces on either border (Iraq and Afghanistan). They could do a number of things with regard to the nuclear program, like kicking out inspectors, or trying to by Uranium from African dictatorships or North Korea.

Who, then, wants war with Iran?

A war would be devastating for Iran. The people who have the most to gain from war with Iran are the neoconservatives like Gingrich and Santorum, not to mention the Israelis and their lobbyists.

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Nation of Iran Celebrates 33 years of Independence and Self-Determination [View all] naragdaban Feb 2012 OP

of course said self determination is subject arely staircase Feb 2012 #1

The toppling of a cruel dictator who was propped up by American big oil is no small feat naragdaban Feb 2012 #4

all that and still no freedom arely staircase Feb 2012 #6

Where did you learn that Iran "has no freedom"? naragdaban Feb 2012 #8

Yes their concept of freedom excludes women entirely nt arely staircase Feb 2012 #10

It doesn't exclude women entirely... it only half-excludes women LooseWilly Feb 2012 #52

lovely nt arely staircase Feb 2012 #54

When's the next election for Iranian Supreme Leader? Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #11

The Supreme Leader is elected by the Assembly of Experts of the Leadership naragdaban Feb 2012 #17

Cool. And anyone can start up a political party and run for election? Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #20

They members are elected for eight years. naragdaban Feb 2012 #22

Oddly, there have only been 2 Supreme Leaders since 1979 oberliner Feb 2012 #30

Iran isn't a free or open society by any stretch of the imagination, however... Hippo_Tron Feb 2012 #12

It isn't a "free or open society"... but there's a huge underground society that's relativley "open" LooseWilly Feb 2012 #53

Universal declaration of human rights applies everywhere. MichaelMcGuire Feb 2012 #26

Though the question was not asked of me, I will in any case answer ... etherealtruth Feb 2012 #32

too bad the Iranian people can't read about all things glorious today maddezmom Feb 2012 #40

their independence day is April 1 Enrique Feb 2012 #2

Quite an accomplishment - getting rid of the USA AND all of its gays. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2012 #3

Iran is not looking to "get rid of the US". naragdaban Feb 2012 #18

actually Santorum and Iranian leaders are peas in a pod arely staircase Feb 2012 #21

This post has an impressively high irony potential. Surprised there are so few takers. leveymg Feb 2012 #5

Have a good stay, Iran shill. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #7

Another article naragdaban Feb 2012 #9

Thanks for sharing... MineralMan Feb 2012 #13

Take those insane, misogynist, homophobic, ignorant theocrats and shove them. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #14

Wow. The replies on this thread look like Freerepublic circa Feb 2003 Scootaloo Feb 2012 #15

Iran has an illiberal, theocratic government RZM Feb 2012 #23

Maybe a nod in the direction of the fact that the Shah was even fucking worse? Scootaloo Feb 2012 #36

What the hell? RZM Feb 2012 #39

Yes, brainless reactionary propaganda. Did I stutter? Scootaloo Feb 2012 #45

A - f*ing - men! But, this is exactly what happened to a lot of us who polly7 Feb 2012 #46

To me, this post looks exactly the same Crunchy Frog Feb 2012 #56

What indefensible thing am I defending, here? Scootaloo Feb 2012 #65

You're saying that most DUers read WorldNetDaily? Crunchy Frog Feb 2012 #68

You should look into the fate of the Iranian Communist Party under the current regime RZM Feb 2012 #58

Quite aware, actually Scootaloo Feb 2012 #64

No one is "mass demonizing" anything. They are criticizing the Iranian government. PVnRT Feb 2012 #67

"You know, the war that the US instigated..." EX500rider Feb 2012 #42

Don't know much about our involvement in the region, do you? Scootaloo Feb 2012 #47

Actually I do know a lot about it.. EX500rider Feb 2012 #48

We've been seeking that revenge for decades now Scootaloo Feb 2012 #49

creepers were big on gay rights in 2003? arely staircase Feb 2012 #24

No, they were eager to kill lots of Muslims, though Scootaloo Feb 2012 #37

Iran was independent before 1979 n/t RZM Feb 2012 #16

If by "Independent" you mean "ruled by a Tyrannical puppet of the Pentagon" then sure Scootaloo Feb 2012 #38

It's amusing that you seem to think support from the US voids a nation's sovereignty RZM Feb 2012 #57

1953 Iranian coup d'�tat ronnie624 Feb 2012 #59

Yes I'm aware of that. Are you aware of how Mohammed Reza became Shah in the first place? RZM Feb 2012 #60

I don't know what any of that has to do with your claim ronnie624 Feb 2012 #62

And it's funny you think rule by someone you dislike does the same Scootaloo Feb 2012 #63

I'm starting to think RZM Feb 2012 #66

And what better way to celebrate than with a tour by a cardboard cutout? muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #19

hey got a question for you arely staircase Feb 2012 #25

yay! ultra-conservative gov't controlled by clergy rollin74 Feb 2012 #27

Wow - this post was actually not meant to be ironic! oberliner Feb 2012 #28

and he loves freedom arely staircase Feb 2012 #29

Get back to me when Iranian citizens can publicly criticize the bearded theocrats and Ikonoklast Feb 2012 #31

Too bad Neda isn't here to see it. Swede Feb 2012 #33

You know what I find ironic? naragdaban Feb 2012 #70

Here are a couple more not celebrating Swede Feb 2012 #71

Yay for the misogynistic, homophobic theocrats! sufrommich Feb 2012 #34

Well that's putting a happy face on it, but sure. JVS Feb 2012 #35

US businessman visits Iran polly7 Feb 2012 #41

Thanks. Well worth the hour spent. n/t ronnie624 Feb 2012 #61

This is right up there with that N. Korea thread last year... EX500rider Feb 2012 #43

Disturbing propaganda EgaLitE Feb 2012 #44

How is it disturbing? naragdaban Feb 2012 #69

I'm sad to see this thread here... Liora24 Feb 2012 #50

While I find Iran's current regime to be disgusting and repressive and backward Crunchy Frog Feb 2012 #51

It would be 58 years of self-determination if we hadn't meddled with them LeftinOH Feb 2012 #55