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KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
46. Lots Of Smoke...
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 07:40 AM
Jun 2013

...but very little fire here other than another media and DU feeding frenzy. I'm more concerned about my other half giving me grief about the calls I make on my cell bill than some doofus in a secret room half a world away. The ugly truth is all types of information about our lives are datamined by corporate and government entities and this "revelation" is years...even decades too late. Technology has redefined "privacy" so that any electronic signal, once it leaves your home becomes public. This is also the case any time you use a credit card or write a check or drive a government licensed car on a public road past a camera. Your information is bought and sold constantly...anyone who is intent on building a dossier doesn't need to go far to find out more about you than you will feel comfortable knowing they know.

The positive that possibly can be gleamed here is that this revelation and the ensuing outrage will lead to hearing and investigations into how far and deep the NSA and other government and private entities can dig into our private lives. It can unravel an underground network that has been growing over the past 12 years and maybe it will force some accountability.

As far as Snowden...I don't see him as either a hero or villain...just another player in a game of politics. I would like him to testify in a Congressional investigation of how he was able to gain access to the information he did...not jail. We need a new Church committee to look into how out of control the "security" state has become and then pinpoint ways to put controls on it. Unfortunately that requires working with a dysfunctional Congress...

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I won't tell if I see him. Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #1
I'd be surprised if BAH hasn't dispatched crews to find him NightWatcher Jun 2013 #2
I would think BAH is lawyering up right now discopants Jun 2013 #5
They won't lose any contracts NightWatcher Jun 2013 #7
Snowden said he was deciding to leak before the Nov 2008 election - he wasn't at BAH back then Tx4obama Jun 2013 #12
Wait, what? His info is from 2007? arcane1 Jun 2013 #28
You just don't understand, do you? He says he has nothing to hide. randome Jun 2013 #3
If everyone knew all this, why prosecute Snowden? For reminding Us? lob1 Jun 2013 #4
For passing on classified documents, to which he had special access pnwmom Jun 2013 #33
Hmmmm... LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #6
It's all baloney! But still a horrific crime to mention! DirkGently Jun 2013 #16
Thank you. That is what I am wondering, too. djean111 Jun 2013 #29
He broke the law requiring that classified documents not be passed on pnwmom Jun 2013 #34
It's legal for a Dr to collect your personal helath and psych info. Sheepshank Jun 2013 #42
RUN SNOWDEN RUN!!!! rightsideout Jun 2013 #8
Please link to the court order(s) in full naming the suspects by name. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #9
Three people were killed in the Boston bombing. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #10
I think one of the main points is to have access to the info after an attack Tx4obama Jun 2013 #15
Are you sure about that? BlueCheese Jun 2013 #21
Sure about the tele-coms deleting the call data? Yeah, that's what they've been saying on the news. Tx4obama Jun 2013 #24
What assurances do we have that marions ghost Jun 2013 #41
The billing records exist a while, but the conversations, unless they've changed since the 80's freshwest Jun 2013 #44
There are much bigger threats out there than the Boston bombers, or even 9/11. pnwmom Jun 2013 #35
Torturers are also criminals Fumesucker Jun 2013 #11
And people thought Nixon was dead. former9thward Jun 2013 #13
I might as well be reading FR whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #14
+1 Liberal_in_LA Jun 2013 #18
+2 idwiyo Jun 2013 #36
DOJ was still breaking the law in 2011. They just won't tell us DirkGently Jun 2013 #17
Daniel Ellsberg too! bananas Jun 2013 #19
Would you like to see him have an open trial? DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #20
They should drone his ass. Its legal. Punish him. The Link Jun 2013 #22
Fuck yeah! Iggo Jun 2013 #23
Some uncategorized combatants may get killed in the process.. The Link Jun 2013 #25
!!! QC Jun 2013 #26
... 2naSalit Jun 2013 #27
Karen Finney brought up Jamaal510 Jun 2013 #30
Yay spying! LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #32
Long may you run, Snowden. Long may you run! And thank you. morningfog Jun 2013 #31
Snowden is a hero Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #37
Maybe Glenn will represent him in court. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #38
If "Underground" democrats are this far to the Right, I wonder Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #39
What are you talking about? davidpdx Jun 2013 #40
if this NSA matter is total hype and there is nothing to it that everyone didn't already know then Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #45
Lots Of Smoke... KharmaTrain Jun 2013 #46
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