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(25,406 posts) Tue Jun 11, 2013, 09:31 AM Jun 2013

Do you agree with John Boehner that Edward Snowden is a traitor? [View all]

WASHINGTON – The House speaker, John A. Boehner, offered harsh criticism of the man who leaked classified information on the government’s Internet and telephone monitoring programs, and gave his strongest defense of the surveillance efforts on Tuesday.

“He’s a traitor,” Mr. Boehner said in an interview on ABC’s “Good Morning America” on Tuesday. He added: “The disclosure of this information puts Americans at risk. It shows our adversaries what our capabilities are. And it’s a giant violation of the law.”

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/11/boehner-calls-snowden-a-traitor/

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	Yes, I agree with John Boehner. Edward Snowden is a traitor.
	8 (28%)
	No, I disagree with John Boehner. Edward Snowden is not a traitor.
	21 (72%)
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Do you agree with John Boehner that Edward Snowden is a traitor? [View all] Nye Bevan Jun 2013 OP

Don't agree with DiFi either truebluegreen Jun 2013 #1

I think being a traitor requires mens rea. I think Snowden thought he was doing the right thing. stevenleser Jun 2013 #2

Looks like so far, more people view him as a hero. Republicans like Clapper, a war profiteer doesn't sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #11

A majority of People once thought the world was flat, absent objective facts otherwise. stevenleser Jun 2013 #12

Far more relevant to this story, a majority of people once thought Daniel Ellsberg was a traitor. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #13

The Fact is, FISA has repeatedy been found to be Constitutional. If you like the Constitution stevenleser Jun 2013 #15

Lots of laws have been found to be 'constitutional' our history is replete with them. Thankfully sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #22

This is not a law. This is the Constitution. If you are talking about FISA, do you understand the stevenleser Jun 2013 #31

Do you understand that the 4th Amendment forbids warrantless invasions of people's lives. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #33

Do you understand that judges interpret what the Constitution means and they do not agree with you stevenleser Jun 2013 #35

Show me 'several decisions' that involved a ruling against probable cause (other than the exception sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #41

Sabrina, trying to pretend a completely different situation's legal rulings apply doesn't work. stevenleser Jun 2013 #47

I point you again to the 4th Amendment, that is all we need to know. Our representatives take an sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #54

ellsberg faced the music and didn't seek refuge in a totalitarian state, bragging on said arely staircase Jun 2013 #20

Agreed on all points. riqster Jun 2013 #30

Ellsberg completely disagrees with you. He sent a message to Snowden thanking him for his courage sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #34

that is why I sad - "regardless of what ellsberg says" arely staircase Jun 2013 #53

Snowden has stated clearly that he knew the consequences of his actions. What court would he have sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #57

but he is unwilling to face the consequences of his actions, unlike ellsberg arely staircase Jun 2013 #59

The only consequences he should face is a public, not secret, investigation into whether or not sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #61

The world is flat DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #44

The fact that Booz Allen is owned by The Carlyle Group dgibby Jun 2013 #17

I think he is being used by traitors. tridim Jun 2013 #3

I think Bush and his 'security' Corps, are traitors. I am glad we have courageous people like this sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #8

Senators Feinstein and Nelson called it "treason." ProSense Jun 2013 #4

Some Dare Call it Treason Smarmie Doofus Jun 2013 #5

Well, all war profiteers will view those who expose them as 'traitors'. But to whom? sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #10

According to my understanding as of now... tarheelsunc Jun 2013 #6

Tssk.. ForeignandDomestic Jun 2013 #7

I would never, in a hundred lifetimes agree with that son of bitch on anything. Autumn Jun 2013 #9

Boehner is a traitor as far as I care. hobbit709 Jun 2013 #14

Can't vote, because usually in situations like this, the truth is someplace in the middle. nt Javaman Jun 2013 #16

Yup. GoCubsGo Jun 2013 #18

I have not decided yet... Ohio Joe Jun 2013 #19

not in the strict legal sense arely staircase Jun 2013 #21

Saw Fox 'news" at the gym and they had the opposite view, calling Snowden a hero. AlinPA Jun 2013 #23

Tssk.. ForeignandDomestic Jun 2013 #24

+1.. SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #25

A lot of John Boehner and Lindsey Graham supporters here lately. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #26

Nice to see 30% of DU siding with Boehner LittleBlue Jun 2013 #27

Well, the other 70% is siding with StormFront, who thinks he's a hero... SidDithers Jun 2013 #28

How do you know what Stormfront is doing? No one here gives a shit about sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #37

Appeals to bandwagon (Elsberg) and guilt by association (Stormfront) are two sides of the same coin stevenleser Jun 2013 #39

Ellsberg is a respected hero in this country. There was no need to appeal to him. His words have sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #42

Appeals to bandwagon and appeals to authority are logical fallacies for good reasons the same way stevenleser Jun 2013 #46

Well of course if that was the case, you might have a point. The fact is that Ellsberg agrees with sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #58

ROFL. This coming from the poster who tells us what the goons at Conservative Cave are posting... SidDithers Jun 2013 #40

Aw, you're so lovable when you try to play 'gotcha' and fail. But practice makes perfect and who sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #43

Yeah, you tell yourself that, sabrina... SidDithers Jun 2013 #48

And yet you play bobduca Jun 2013 #56

No. I don't agree with traitor Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #29

Yes, but agreeing with BONER has nothing to do with my opinion. nt UTUSN Jun 2013 #32

This is the stupidest fucking piece of shit of a poll I've seen in my life! n/t backscatter712 Jun 2013 #36

I don't think he's a traitor... one_voice Jun 2013 #38

This is one of those cat/buttered toast trick questions! reformist2 Jun 2013 #45

It's a simple question. I probably would have included Ari Fleischer and Peter King sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #60

Good news-- Mitch McConnell also thinks Snowden should be prosecuted. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #49

He's a hero who loves America more than any politician that approves of mass surveillance. nt limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #50

Boehner is a corporatist, pushing legislation which benefits things in which he has $$$ investments. Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #51

I really don't know AsahinaKimi Jun 2013 #52

Traitor? In the same way that Daniel Ellsberg is? Or, Ronald Ridenhour? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #55

just changed my vote to yes to reflect snowden's sharing of info w/chinese arely staircase Jun 2013 #62