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In reply to the discussion: You have to be utterly ignorant of history, in a state of denial, dumb as grits or [View all]OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)135. Yet in 2002, liberals were more supportive of liberty-restricting laws like the USA PATRIOT Act.
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x582516#582750
Methodology
The data for this study was obtained through the Inter-university Consortium for Political
and Social Research. The data is a Washington Post September 11th Poll, conducted September
3-6, 2002. The poll was conducted through telephone surveys, whereby the households called
were chosen by random-digit dialing and the respondent chosen was an adult who last had a
birthday and was present at the time. The data set includes 1,003 cases and 81 variables.
This data was chosen for the respondents views on whether the September 11 attacks had
changed their lives, if people could be trusted, if they were concerned for their safety, if they
supported laws to aid the F.B.I. in the investigation of terrorism, whether they would sacrifice
freedoms to aid in the investigation of terrorism, if they approved of their congressional
representative, if they intended to re-elect their congressional representative, and which party
they would be voting for in the 2002 congressional election. Supporting laws, sacrificing
freedom, approval and re-election of congressional representatives, and choice of political party
for congressional representative vote will serve as the dependent variables. Whether 9/11
changed their lives, if the change affected their day-to-day lives or if it changed the way they
thought about things, and trust in people will serve as the independent variables. Concern over
personally being the victim of a terrorist attack will serve as the control variable.
There Must Be a Reason: Osama, Saddam, and Inferred Justification
http://sociology.buffalo.edu/documents/hoffmansocinquiryarticle_000.pdf
One of the most curious aspects of the 2004 presidential election was the strength
and resilience of the belief among many Americans that Saddam Hussein was linked to
the terrorist attacks of September 11. Scholars have suggested that this belief was the
result of a campaign of false information and innuendo from the Bush administration.
We call this the information environment explanation. Using a technique of challenge
interviews on a sample of voters who reported believing in a link between Saddam and
9/11, we propose instead a social psychological explanation for the belief in this link.
We identify a number of social psychological mechanisms voters use to maintain false
beliefs in the face of disconfirming information, and we show that for a subset of voters
the main reason to believe in the link was that it made sense of the administrations decision
to go to war against Iraq. We call this inferred justification: for these voters, the fact of the
war led to a search for a justification for it, which led them to infer the existence of ties
between Iraq and 9/11.
~snip~
In this article we present data that contest this explanation, and we develop
a social psychological explanation for the belief in the link between Saddam
and Al Qaeda. We argue that the primary causal agent for misperception is not
the presence or absence of correct information but a respondents willingness to
believe particular kinds of information. Our explanation draws on a psychological
model of information processing that scholars have labeled motivated reasoning.
This model envisions respondents as processing and responding to information
defensively, accepting and seeking out confirming information, while ignoring,
discrediting the source of, or arguing against the substance of contrary information
(DiMaggio 1997; Kunda 1990; Lodge and Tabor 2000). Motivated reasoning is
a descendant of the social psychological theory of cognitive dissonance (Festinger
and Carlsmith 1959; Kunda 1990), which posits an unconscious impulse to
relieve cognitive tension when a respondent is presented with information that
contradicts preexisting beliefs or preferences. Recent literature on motivated
reasoning builds on cognitive dissonance theory to explain how citizens relieve
cognitive dissonance: they avoid inconsistency, ignore challenging information
altogether, discredit the information source, or argue substantively against the
challenge (Jobe, Tourangeau, and Smith 1993; Lodge and Taber 2000; Westen
et al. 2006). The process of substantive counterarguing is especially consequential,
as the cognitive exercise of generating counterarguments often has the ironic
effect of solidifying and strengthening the original opinion leading to entrenched,
polarized attitudes (Kunda 1990; Lodge and Taber 2000; Sunstein 2000; Lodge and
Taber 2000). This confirmation bias means that people value evidence that confirms
their previously held beliefs more highly than evidence that contradicts them,
regardless of the source (DiMaggio 1997; Nickerson 1998, Wason 1968).
~snip~
We chose to focus on Republican partisans because of the well-documented
partisan difference in the perception of the validity of this link. We assumed
that Democratic partisans would not have a strong desire to defend the Bush
administration on this issue, thus severely reducing the variation we would
capture in responses. Our choice of subjects means that we are investigating how
partisanship produces and reinforces political (mis)information. Our choice of
subjects should not be taken to imply that the processes we are examining here
are particular to conservatives: we expect that, had we conducted this study in
the late 1990s, we would have found a high degree of motivated reasoning
regarding the behavior of President Clinton during the Lewinsky scandal.
Previous research on motivated reasoning has found it among respondents of all
classes, ages, races, genders, and affiliations (see Lodge and Tabor 2000).
Methodology
The data for this study was obtained through the Inter-university Consortium for Political
and Social Research. The data is a Washington Post September 11th Poll, conducted September
3-6, 2002. The poll was conducted through telephone surveys, whereby the households called
were chosen by random-digit dialing and the respondent chosen was an adult who last had a
birthday and was present at the time. The data set includes 1,003 cases and 81 variables.
This data was chosen for the respondents views on whether the September 11 attacks had
changed their lives, if people could be trusted, if they were concerned for their safety, if they
supported laws to aid the F.B.I. in the investigation of terrorism, whether they would sacrifice
freedoms to aid in the investigation of terrorism, if they approved of their congressional
representative, if they intended to re-elect their congressional representative, and which party
they would be voting for in the 2002 congressional election. Supporting laws, sacrificing
freedom, approval and re-election of congressional representatives, and choice of political party
for congressional representative vote will serve as the dependent variables. Whether 9/11
changed their lives, if the change affected their day-to-day lives or if it changed the way they
thought about things, and trust in people will serve as the independent variables. Concern over
personally being the victim of a terrorist attack will serve as the control variable.
There Must Be a Reason: Osama, Saddam, and Inferred Justification
http://sociology.buffalo.edu/documents/hoffmansocinquiryarticle_000.pdf
One of the most curious aspects of the 2004 presidential election was the strength
and resilience of the belief among many Americans that Saddam Hussein was linked to
the terrorist attacks of September 11. Scholars have suggested that this belief was the
result of a campaign of false information and innuendo from the Bush administration.
We call this the information environment explanation. Using a technique of challenge
interviews on a sample of voters who reported believing in a link between Saddam and
9/11, we propose instead a social psychological explanation for the belief in this link.
We identify a number of social psychological mechanisms voters use to maintain false
beliefs in the face of disconfirming information, and we show that for a subset of voters
the main reason to believe in the link was that it made sense of the administrations decision
to go to war against Iraq. We call this inferred justification: for these voters, the fact of the
war led to a search for a justification for it, which led them to infer the existence of ties
between Iraq and 9/11.
~snip~
In this article we present data that contest this explanation, and we develop
a social psychological explanation for the belief in the link between Saddam
and Al Qaeda. We argue that the primary causal agent for misperception is not
the presence or absence of correct information but a respondents willingness to
believe particular kinds of information. Our explanation draws on a psychological
model of information processing that scholars have labeled motivated reasoning.
This model envisions respondents as processing and responding to information
defensively, accepting and seeking out confirming information, while ignoring,
discrediting the source of, or arguing against the substance of contrary information
(DiMaggio 1997; Kunda 1990; Lodge and Tabor 2000). Motivated reasoning is
a descendant of the social psychological theory of cognitive dissonance (Festinger
and Carlsmith 1959; Kunda 1990), which posits an unconscious impulse to
relieve cognitive tension when a respondent is presented with information that
contradicts preexisting beliefs or preferences. Recent literature on motivated
reasoning builds on cognitive dissonance theory to explain how citizens relieve
cognitive dissonance: they avoid inconsistency, ignore challenging information
altogether, discredit the information source, or argue substantively against the
challenge (Jobe, Tourangeau, and Smith 1993; Lodge and Taber 2000; Westen
et al. 2006). The process of substantive counterarguing is especially consequential,
as the cognitive exercise of generating counterarguments often has the ironic
effect of solidifying and strengthening the original opinion leading to entrenched,
polarized attitudes (Kunda 1990; Lodge and Taber 2000; Sunstein 2000; Lodge and
Taber 2000). This confirmation bias means that people value evidence that confirms
their previously held beliefs more highly than evidence that contradicts them,
regardless of the source (DiMaggio 1997; Nickerson 1998, Wason 1968).
~snip~
We chose to focus on Republican partisans because of the well-documented
partisan difference in the perception of the validity of this link. We assumed
that Democratic partisans would not have a strong desire to defend the Bush
administration on this issue, thus severely reducing the variation we would
capture in responses. Our choice of subjects means that we are investigating how
partisanship produces and reinforces political (mis)information. Our choice of
subjects should not be taken to imply that the processes we are examining here
are particular to conservatives: we expect that, had we conducted this study in
the late 1990s, we would have found a high degree of motivated reasoning
regarding the behavior of President Clinton during the Lewinsky scandal.
Previous research on motivated reasoning has found it among respondents of all
classes, ages, races, genders, and affiliations (see Lodge and Tabor 2000).
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You have to be utterly ignorant of history, in a state of denial, dumb as grits or [View all]
cali
Jun 2013
OP
Maybe we could, you know, oversee what these overly funded, runaway agencies are doing
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#14
Wait… so you think the Government… which the OP trashes initially, is the solution?
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#51
It isn't misrepresenting because it's exactly the premise used by those who want to kill
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#49
The people didn't vote for Booz Allen or any other Private Security firm, nor did we vote for
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#18
No, many of us aren't defending the indefensible. We are just sticking to FACTS.
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#53
oh please, blind partisans never stick to facts. if the facts are wrong then you spin like a top. n
boilerbabe
Jun 2013
#88
Looks to me like when someone points out an iceberg that some immediately
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#143
It's just an unsubtle way of suggesting that you're a Rovian Stooge for suggesting that the Admin is
leveymg
Jun 2013
#60
apparently if you dare ever question the government at all you are siding with the republicans and
liberal_at_heart
Jun 2013
#86
I knew you'd slip up and expose yourself one day. We all know where that came from. nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#68
Fine, and congress authorized it, and because we are a representative government, people voted for
still_one
Jun 2013
#3
Even the movie 9/11 discussed this. Now, in the movie a Congress person indicated most never read
still_one
Jun 2013
#139
which just goes to show you how many political hacks there are posting on political websites.
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#95
Yet in 2002, liberals were more supportive of liberty-restricting laws like the USA PATRIOT Act.
OnyxCollie
Jun 2013
#135
Don't you think the 2011 ruling on the Obama administration's illegal spying
DirkGently
Jun 2013
#24
Meh. I have zero people on ignore, and hiding threads doesn't help the insults & hyperbole.
JaneyVee
Jun 2013
#43
Agreed. Look at all the govt violations that were uncovered by the Church Committee decades ago.
avaistheone1
Jun 2013
#35
I love the title to your post..content as well..but the title just lays it out..thanks..nt
xiamiam
Jun 2013
#45
Your opening premise= Gover Norquist's wet dream. NOW- if you'd opened w/need to cut out private
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#47
Nothing to propose other than scrap the whole thing, and fire the gov. workers there.
Amonester
Jun 2013
#106
But..but..it's absolutely essential to keep the scary bogeymen, like Snowden and Manning, at bay.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2013
#55
I'll go with my own Senator, thank you very much. And Bernie thinks it's deplorable.
cali
Jun 2013
#87
What the hell, did you get up on the wrong side of the bed this afternoon or something?
Major Hogwash
Jun 2013
#62
obviously - but the public has been so deeply indoctrinated to be afraid of its own Shadow - it
Douglas Carpenter
Jun 2013
#72
we know that - but what is the Democrats excuse for such a dramatic change in position?
Douglas Carpenter
Jun 2013
#96
Sometimes it takes 50 years for us to learn about the abuses the government commits.
liberal_at_heart
Jun 2013
#91
no it's not blustery or foolish. It's common sense and a knowledge of history, honey.
cali
Jun 2013
#92
You could also be someone who expects to become rich from the abuse of national security.
Kablooie
Jun 2013
#99
it's okay when Pres. Obama does it. not Bush though - because he was evil. I read it on the DU.
piratefish08
Jun 2013
#114
OK. and my ability to debate is certainly far better than yours. debate requires some
cali
Jun 2013
#123
It would be very hard to live "off the grid" today unless you had a lot of cash buried somewhere. nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#129
Just because you dont know where he is doesnt mean the govment doesnt know.
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#130
I think the problem is that technology is advancing faster than we can control.
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#140
Well, us little people that need loans, have to allow personal intrusion when applying for jobs
Babel_17
Jun 2013
#132
FISA approve almost all because appeals courts have already ruled the President can do this.
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#136
Completely agree that these agencies are abusing their power. But are you saying
AnnieK401
Jun 2013
#150
I guess the only sort of solution I see at this point is far greater congressional oversight
cali
Jun 2013
#153
And your point? What has actually happened to you as a result? Local police abuse their power ever
kelliekat44
Jun 2013
#168