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Warpy

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10. At last!

Tue Jun 11, 2013, 12:37 PM

Jun 2013

Fucking "no tolerance" fascists have always seen these kids as the enemy. They're not. They're kids.

The other night, TCM ran a bunch of shorts that were training films for various things. One was a film from the Louisiana PD in the 50s, showing how to talk down a crazy person to defuse a violent situation. It was great, something cops haven't done much of since they were issued Tasers. Now they just zap em and drop em and haul them off like bags of wet cement and nobody gets any help.

The first unit I worked on out of nursing school was a unit for head injured people with behavioral problems stemming from insult to the brain. To say it was a wild place is an understatement. However, I learned how to talk people down very quickly.

It's not hard. Just identify what's going on with them and get them talking. Once that happens, you can work with them on a better outcome than calling 6 burly cops to come in and help tie them down. It's amazing what being willing to listen to a frightened or angry person does to defuse a situation.

They really need to start teaching this stuff again.

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A New Approach to School Discipline � Suspensions Drop 85% [View all] Matariki Jun 2013 OP

Love it! In_The_Wind Jun 2013 #1

Excellent. sibelian Jun 2013 #2

sure beats the 'school to prison pipeline' Matariki Jun 2013 #3

Yeah. That guy is soooooo fired. nt DCKit Jun 2013 #25

But the private prison industry NEEDS more prisoners. tclambert Jun 2013 #79

You mean the "school to private prison to profit pipeline" tonybgood Jun 2013 #80

Yes. That's exactly what I meant. Matariki Jun 2013 #98

Really, this is just plain compassionate behavior by the principal. Too bad it is unknown to many. kelliekat44 Jun 2013 #61

finally, some sense. Whisp Jun 2013 #4

in theory it should be in much more widespread use... Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #30

Sounds like a wonderful approach. Arkansas Granny Jun 2013 #5

Hey wait a minute. That's tolerance! immoderate Jun 2013 #6

bunch of stupid bullshit Celldweller Jun 2013 #7

Seems like the "poor teachers" are a fan... sibelian Jun 2013 #9

Well it's a personal opinion Celldweller Jun 2013 #11

ugh! SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #14

woah, I don't think he kids! Whisp Jun 2013 #19

So basically you just don't like children? sibelian Jun 2013 #16

come on... Celldweller Jun 2013 #18

I bet you hated how Sheriff Taylor brought up Opie. eShirl Jun 2013 #20

Violence might get someone to comply for a short time but in the long run Skeeter Barnes Jun 2013 #24

Discipline is a FANTASTIC thing. sibelian Jun 2013 #28

Exactly. Exactly. AverageJoe90 Jun 2013 #62

What you need to instill in children... NancyDL Jun 2013 #55

Ma'am, you got it all right here. n/t AverageJoe90 Jun 2013 #63

Not really. Don't believe the rightist hype, man. It never does any good.....n/t. AverageJoe90 Jun 2013 #60

... said every generation ever. (nt) Posteritatis Jun 2013 #71

I don't like children and think anger and violence are not good child rearing techniques. REP Jun 2013 #65

Wimp ajk2821 Jun 2013 #36

That's funny, because abuse tends to make future criminals. JoeyT Jun 2013 #38

nevermind Matariki Jun 2013 #42

LMFAO... your point is vindicated? SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #50

Discipline =/= physical abuse good grief, I thought society LadyHawkAZ Jun 2013 #51

Most of society has outgrown it... NancyDL Jun 2013 #56

So, you're like 100 years old? Crunchy Frog Jun 2013 #52

I would bet that you're not from a generation that believes in corporal punishment... NancyDL Jun 2013 #54

Very true, ma'am. n/t AverageJoe90 Jun 2013 #64

It helps if you actually read the whole thing. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #68

What generation is that - caveman? Heywood J Jun 2013 #69

"Suspend, suspend, suspend!" isn't doing anyone any favors ck4829 Jun 2013 #73

I am closer to the grave than the cradle, and I wasn't raised to believe that MADem Jun 2013 #81

Research shows you're wrong about spanked children. duhneece Jun 2013 #83

Spanking actually does the opposite NewJeffCT Jun 2013 #85

I agree with you.... ReRe Jun 2013 #88

Your opinion sucks. Apophis Jun 2013 #93

I think you're arguing the stereotype zipplewrath Jun 2013 #32

Did you read the entire article? Or watch the video about the health center angstlessk Jun 2013 #37

I'll bet you just looove Crazy Sheriff Joe. Brigid Jun 2013 #78

Ex-wife asked me to referee a fight between her son and her mother. ieoeja Jun 2013 #94

Wow. Are you OK? This doesn�t sound like you. What�s going on? Bonx Jun 2013 #95

I've seen this approach work over and over, LWolf Jun 2013 #8

At last! Warpy Jun 2013 #10

I don't remember where I read this on DU, kentauros Jun 2013 #33

Here in NM, you can take a 'Mental First Aid' class duhneece Jun 2013 #84

There are many positive ways of getting students to behave. kentauros Jun 2013 #12

I have seen art and music keep some kids in school. femmocrat Jun 2013 #22

An interesting thing I've learned about many scientists and mathematicians kentauros Jun 2013 #29

This is one of the most kick worthy posts I have ever seen angstlessk Jun 2013 #13

Thanks. I thought it was a nice bit of good news. Matariki Jun 2013 #43

Indeed..this should be a blueprint for ALL SCHOOLS angstlessk Jun 2013 #59

But what if it really does "sound like" that student? femmocrat Jun 2013 #15

There is a health center attached to the school where angstlessk Jun 2013 #23

OK, sorry.... I didn't read far enough into the article. femmocrat Jun 2013 #26

In many public school systems, expulsion is not an option. Just throwing that in here. Squinch Jun 2013 #67

Getting them to own their actions nineteen50 Jun 2013 #17

Adrien Brody plays a teacher in the movie Detachment and he treats his students the same way. graywarrior Jun 2013 #21

so what are the consequences for cursing the teacher? arely staircase Jun 2013 #27

In school suspension..they do not get off scott free...but angstlessk Jun 2013 #31

gotcha arely staircase Jun 2013 #34

Taught how to deal with their anger in a proper way? Matariki Jun 2013 #45

and those who chose not to learn that lesson arely staircase Jun 2013 #46

Finally. Someone figured this elementary "technique" out. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #35

How in the hell are we gonna fill our youth prisons?! nt Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #39

Yeah. it's amazing when you treat people like people, especially kids... B Stieg Jun 2013 #40

This will be seen as a negative by right wing authoritarians. AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #41

they can still be disciplined under this method arely staircase Jun 2013 #47

You don't see discipline like they do. AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #48

no i don't i supose arely staircase Jun 2013 #49

THANK YOU! elleng Jun 2013 #44

This article is so right on. This stuff works. NancyDL Jun 2013 #53

I taught special education with 8th graders for 38 years and... erinlough Jun 2013 #57

This school also has small class sizes (15 or less as best I can find). And a student body HiPointDem Jun 2013 #58

K & R Wednesdays Jun 2013 #66

when I was in 9th grade in Iowa Skittles Jun 2013 #70

That's really terrible Matariki Jun 2013 #76

With the money these school-to-prison pipelines make, he should be checking under his car ck4829 Jun 2013 #72

That's great to hear.. I know my sister Cha Jun 2013 #74

Yay for your sister and people like her Matariki Jun 2013 #77

Sounds like the Emotional Intelligence technique used in schools here to teach problem solving. freshwest Jun 2013 #75

Don't we ALL want to respond from kindness when we recognize someone in pain? duhneece Jun 2013 #82

New? Really? gordianot Jun 2013 #86

re:A New Approach to School Discipline � Suspensions Drop 85% allan01 Jun 2013 #87

Super madokie Jun 2013 #89

K&R ReRe Jun 2013 #90

So, here's the whole thing with "discipline" and kids: enki23 Jun 2013 #91

Great article. CrispyQ Jun 2013 #92

Common sense making a come back? Love it. nt Live and Learn Jun 2013 #96

Sounds like that school has a fantastic principal. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #97