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Zorra

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111. Honestly, this person feels off to me, and I have been keeping out of discussions

Tue Jun 11, 2013, 01:43 PM

Jun 2013

because of this.

Because he feels so wrong, I have a nagging suspicion that there may be some type of set up going on that has been orchestrated by the "intelligence* community, and that there is some ulterior motive for this whole scenario, one that possibly has nothing to do with Obama, or that Obama is even possibly complicit in.

Maybe even a set up leading to an excuse to pass legislation to further the protection of the 1% from whistleblowers

Or maybe they are using Snowden as a willing stooge complicit in discrediting future whistleblowers.

We are dealing with spooks here, working in a semi-privatized public realm. That in itself is a scenario that is totally off, wrong, fucked up, dangerous in every possible way.

I dunno what it is. It's just a really bad feeling about Snowden and this whole thing.

I really hope that soon we can all come together in solidarity, and throw off the yoke of privatized government forever.

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Snowden lied about his salary... [View all] HipChick Jun 2013 OP

............................... Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #1

I do...IRS audit...or maybe he was being paid from someone other entity..or maybe he is just a liar. HipChick Jun 2013 #3

The desperation is amusing lol n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #14

What desperation? leftynyc Jun 2013 #51

... Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #64

No silly, Android3.14 Jun 2013 #70

I have no idea what you're babbling about leftynyc Jun 2013 #76

Twist and twist and twist. Now it's not Snowden we worship, it's Greenwald Android3.14 Jun 2013 #102

Nobody has betrayed my trust leftynyc Jun 2013 #115

Again, you are making little sense. Android3.14 Jun 2013 #131

Pretending not to understand leftynyc Jun 2013 #142

I don't see it as desperation, credibility is paramount arthritisR_US Jun 2013 #57

Actually, we don't know if he lied. cali Jun 2013 #2

He is a contractor on contract rates...he wouldn't be getting much else HipChick Jun 2013 #7

Contractors don't get salaries. He worked for a contractor. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #19

Employees of contractors are called "contractors". Yes, it's confusing. (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #47

In Hawaii - salary + COLA + relocation + incentives LVZ Jun 2013 #90

He should show his pay stub to Greenwald then. pnwmom Jun 2013 #4

And how do YOU know that he hasn't? cali Jun 2013 #8

Then Greenwald should publish it. Easy enough for him to do. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #16

I NEED HIM TO BE THE GOOD GUY. sibelian Jun 2013 #24

LOL n/t bitchkitty Jun 2013 #61

I sure he lied about a lot krawhitham Jun 2013 #5

your panting eagerness to discredit and smear Snowden is creepy. cali Jun 2013 #6

As is your lack of information about how the contracting industry actually works HipChick Jun 2013 #36

Hardly. It's your ignorance. For fuck's sake, BA has confirmed that he was NOT A CONTRACTOR cali Jun 2013 #45

I worked in the contractor industry for over a decade.. HipChick Jun 2013 #52

At Walmart, pumpkin? What makes you think that I worked at Walmart? cali Jun 2013 #71

creepy pursuit? Facts speak for themselves. They aren't creepy. And since Greenwald lied KittyWampus Jun 2013 #103

I do think the lack of fact checking will come out, but also BAH HipChick Jun 2013 #107

That's funny ..... oldhippie Jun 2013 #132

Indeed think Jun 2013 #9

I don't doubt he made $200,000 Catherina Jun 2013 #10

Not really...he wasn't travelling and had relocated.. HipChick Jun 2013 #18

You need to follow and keep up with the story more n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #23

He relocated.. HipChick Jun 2013 #25

Knock yourself out lol. Ignore inconvenient facts like high cost areas housing allowances. Catherina Jun 2013 #40

I think you are missing the point...companies don't pay housing allowances HipChick Jun 2013 #49

Job openings in his field at BAH require 50% travel Catherina Jun 2013 #81

No one includes per diems in stating salary because pnwmom Jun 2013 #28

I wonder what he reports on his taxes...you can only include expenses if you are at a location HipChick Jun 2013 #32

I do not think he will be filing taxes this year krawhitham Jun 2013 #41

He wasn't sent to Hong Kong leftynyc Jun 2013 #60

I gave Hong Kong as an example because he had traveled there BEFORE Catherina Jun 2013 #121

OH MY GOOOOD!!!! Ballerinas AND his salary? sibelian Jun 2013 #11

Bwah! My thoughts exactly. djean111 Jun 2013 #112

Well it could be for other side jobs he may have. southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #12

He would have signed a contract that would preclude taking side jobs HipChick Jun 2013 #22

I didn't know that. But why lie about his salary? I don't get it. There is something fishy period southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #43

shoot. that. messenger! nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #13

Sounds like he's shooting himself. Cha Jun 2013 #127

That's his base salary. It doesn't mean he didn't get paid more. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #15

He's not on salary.. HipChick Jun 2013 #20

Booz Allen says that he was an employee of the firm. Not a contractor. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #27

He is still a contractor.. HipChick Jun 2013 #44

That makes absolutely no sense. I've worked for companies that contract for the U.S. govt. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #46

Right, but the government employees, referring to you, would say "that contractor over there" Recursion Jun 2013 #50

Exactly...the govt employee's would never refer to you as one of them.. HipChick Jun 2013 #53

And if you were an employee of a company with a govt contract ...... oldhippie Jun 2013 #133

no one is claiming he's a gov't employee, genius. cute little strawman you've shoddily constructed. cali Jun 2013 #48

bzzzt. more fact free spouting from you. cali Jun 2013 #31

He's only worked there 3 months. A little too soon for a bonus pnwmom Jun 2013 #33

Any guy trying to date a dancer exaggerates the size of his salary -- amongst other things. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #17

DUzy!!!!!!!!1 n/t UTUSN Jun 2013 #26

Probably included his girlfriend's income... FarCenter Jun 2013 #21

Nobody in the contracting industry ever uses their billrate to the govt as a basis for salary.. HipChick Jun 2013 #29

or the Booze boys are lying.. Whisp Jun 2013 #30

I don't care for BAH, but I don't think they are lying...it is easy to see what rates are being for HipChick Jun 2013 #34

a bit wierd that he would lie about something so inconsequential. Whisp Jun 2013 #37

Good point..I have seen lie about contractor rates HipChick Jun 2013 #39

He told other REALLY stupid lies. Said he went to the Army as Special Forces. BUT DevonRex Jun 2013 #114

This has been my understanding as well. There are some here Raine1967 Jun 2013 #119

Employee for less than 3 months at 60% of claimed salary Progressive dog Jun 2013 #35

and he has only worked for Booz Allen for 3 months krawhitham Jun 2013 #38

Still on probation. atreides1 Jun 2013 #54

If his clearance was available in JPAS, they would have just transferred it over HipChick Jun 2013 #58

we don't know what access he had. Whisp Jun 2013 #62

I still think he is also telling tall ones about the access... HipChick Jun 2013 #65

I just heard one of the yappers on MSNBC repeating what Snowden said: Whisp Jun 2013 #97

I have only heard one MSM reporter that came close to being accurate to what his HipChick Jun 2013 #99

I heard he lied about having high score on Ms.Pacman at a 7-Eleven Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #42

I heard he still has a library book out from '02 Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #55

There are allowances, bonuses, and generous paid benefits. Doesn't mean he lied. leveymg Jun 2013 #56

$80,000 worth? HipChick Jun 2013 #63

No, but that would be $219 per diem, which is not implausible, particularly in HI Recursion Jun 2013 #67

He was asked to and choose to relocate though... HipChick Jun 2013 #72

What is TLA in Hawaii? .... oldhippie Jun 2013 #134

You haven't done any gov't consulting, have you? leveymg Jun 2013 #77

I'd actually be interested to see what your federal govt consulting has been like.. HipChick Jun 2013 #78

None of your business, but enough to know what per diems are. leveymg Jun 2013 #92

Company car, housing allowance and many other perks zeeland Jun 2013 #125

$78,000 paid out then in "allowances, bonuses arthritisR_US Jun 2013 #73

As generous as pinocchio's nose.. HipChick Jun 2013 #82

That's how it's looking to me.. arthritisR_US Jun 2013 #86

My son works for a gov contrator Marrah_G Jun 2013 #141

Shocking! People lie about what they make! Horrifying! Traitors and enemies of the state! Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #59

Do you have his tax returns? DesMoinesDem Jun 2013 #66

How is it smearing if the protagonist is lying about himself? HipChick Jun 2013 #74

The story isn't about him DesMoinesDem Jun 2013 #79

I know what the the rates are on BAH govt contract HipChick Jun 2013 #83

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HE MADE. PERIOD. DesMoinesDem Jun 2013 #88

so post it. post exactly what he made. cali Jun 2013 #94

Actually his job classification on the BAH contracts HipChick Jun 2013 #98

apologist for what? cali Jun 2013 #101

Snowden himself said he earned about $200K Raine1967 Jun 2013 #120

@Raine1967 ..I gave up...People want to ignore what they want to... HipChick Jun 2013 #122

It's frustrating as all hell. Raine1967 Jun 2013 #123

So he's a liar and a quitter. Sounds like Sarah Palin. bushisanidiot Jun 2013 #68

Why does that matter with respect to the nature of NSA data mining? morningfog Jun 2013 #69

Do you really think this is limited to one agency data mining? HipChick Jun 2013 #75

Not at all. I think we are just beginning to scratch the surface. morningfog Jun 2013 #80

Exactly think4yourself Jun 2013 #87

Yeah, but the goat-touching's worse. sibelian Jun 2013 #84

Classic - make the whistleblower the issue. tinrobot Jun 2013 #85

The leaked info isn't the issue. He didn't chitchat with his neighbors. DesMoinesDem Jun 2013 #89

The man behind the curtain is the NSA tinrobot Jun 2013 #91

funny- you are claiming to KNOW he's a hero sigmasix Jun 2013 #104

+10000.. HipChick Jun 2013 #109

Seems like you're prone to exaggeration... tinrobot Jun 2013 #138

Having a security clearance helps make a person valuable JPZenger Jun 2013 #93

Getting security clearance can cost the company anywhere from $25K upwards HipChick Jun 2013 #96

So? hobbit709 Jun 2013 #95

He comes across as an exaggerator Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #100

Exactly...and that is what folks are missing the point with all his HipChick Jun 2013 #106

Oddly enough, though... ljm2002 Jun 2013 #105

I don't care if he likes to kick puppies in his spare time. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #108

Who can possibly GIVE A SHIT how much he made?????? onecent Jun 2013 #110

Honestly, this person feels off to me, and I have been keeping out of discussions Zorra Jun 2013 #111

As evidenced on in this thread, folks are already falling for this - hook,line and sinker.. HipChick Jun 2013 #113

The lies have to be signals. DevonRex Jun 2013 #130

Whoop-de-doo MattSh Jun 2013 #116

These issues are 7yrs old.. Where was your outrage then? HipChick Jun 2013 #118

There was outrage... until Obama got elected tinrobot Jun 2013 #140

He's lying about his salary, and I think he's lying about his girlfriend. Initech Jun 2013 #117

So do I. Either that or he tried to implicate her himself. DevonRex Jun 2013 #124

That's not the only lie he's told. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #126

It is all very strange..lying about things HipChick Jun 2013 #128

nobody cares. nt limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #129

He probably also lied about his "authorities" shawn703 Jun 2013 #135

You're not very good at this smear thing, are you? LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #136

It is pretty blatant, isn't it? tinrobot Jun 2013 #137

ok i'm confused Enrique Jun 2013 #139

Handing over information now makes him a traitor HipChick Jun 2013 #143