Let's make this clear: responding to your teenage child's words with violence is NOT OKAY.

[riderinthestorm]

19. Let me throw a log on the fire... is shooting things common in gun culture?

I'm not being facetious, I really don't know. I don't own guns but it seems to me that in rural communities, people shoot shit. It's not a "big deal".

That said, what's the definition of violence? In the past day we've had a thread where a mom put her teenage daughter out of the car because they were having an argument, and presumably so they could both cool off, THAT was called a violent action - "call CPS!"

My sister thinks its a "violent" action to make my kids do household chores (honestly). Her kids don't work and she thinks it "demeans" them to scrub a toilet.

One of my clients thinks I'm being abusive because I hire teens to help at the farm - they should be focusing on school, not having to go out and work. And I shouldn't be enabling this kind of abuse....

Sometimes the definition of "violence" means something different to one person vs another.

I'm not judging this dad. Honestly, I am not in any state of affairs in my own household right now with my own teen, to sit in judgment. But it seems to me that the responses pro and negative are revolving a lot around personal background....

And above all, we are most certainly NOT getting the whole story. The daughter may be disrespectful directly to her parents and the household help. She'd been warned and violated the trust, we just don't know the whole story I'd bet.