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intaglio

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28. As far as I can see, they are condemned by their own doctrine
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 05:17 PM
Jun 2013

and this despite the good works of their foot soldiers - which is a lot of good work.

From the "Salvationist" web site

We believe that the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments were given by inspiration of God, and that they only constitute the Divine rule of Christian faith and practice.
No wiggle room there Old and New Testaments with all the conflicts and contradictions and all of the condemnations of practices the compilers of that book found distasteful.

We believe that there is only one God, who is infinitely perfect, the Creator, Preserver, and Governor of all things, and who is the only proper object of religious worship.
Fair enough, personally I find this description of tyranny quite disturbing, not to say contradicted by the next 2 elements of this profession of faith.

We believe that there are three persons in the Godhead-the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, undivided in essence and co-equal in power and glory.
And the White Queen believed three impossible things before breakfast

We believe that in the person of Jesus Christ the Divine and human natures are united, so that He is truly and properly God and truly and properly man.
Only 2 impossible things here.

We believe that our first parents were created in a state of innocency, but by their disobedience they lost their purity and happiness, and that in consequence of their fall all men have become sinners, totally depraved, and as such are justly exposed to the wrath of God.
OK, so by this argument what my ancestors did has condemned me unless I have the luck to have been introduced to Christianity - which is hard luck on all those non-Europeans throughout the ages who never heard of Jesus (not his real name).

We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ has by His suffering and death made an atonement for the whole world so that whosoever will may be saved.
Except those who never heard of him and who have never heard of the Bible.

We believe that repentance towards God, faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, and regeneration by the Holy Spirit, are necessary to salvation.
and if you have never heard of Him let alone this doctrine, what happens then?

We believe that we are justified by grace through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ and that he that believeth hath the witness in himself.
This seems to be a "Get out of Jail (Hell) Free" card apart from all the other nonsense.

We believe that continuance in a state of salvation depends upon continued obedient faith in Christ.
and if you have never had the chance to find the rules of this game, what then?

We believe that it is the privilege of all believers to be wholly sanctified, and that their whole spirit and soul and body may be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Is it only the Salvationists particular breed of faith that sanctifies you? Oh, and this "preservation of the body" lark seems a completely unrelated to reality - what happens to those who are cremated?

We believe in the immortality of the soul; in the resurrection of the body; in the general judgment at the end of the world; in the eternal happiness of the righteous; and in the endless punishment of the wicked.
Well the immortality of the soul is nice, but what is a soul? The resurrection of the body is not a good idea considering how ill designed our bodies are and what about the naughty bits and the dirty bits, are they reformed as well? also there is this bit about the wicked for, as far as I can see the wicked are those who do not follow this doctrine.

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I haven't seen it. Horrifying. cali Jun 2013 #1
I used to work with someone in the SA. silverweb Jun 2013 #2
They never said one word of religion to me. aquart Jun 2013 #49
Perhaps different place and time is the reason. silverweb Jun 2013 #55
The place was Dire Straits. The time Whenever Needed. aquart Jun 2013 #56
I'm glad you got help when you needed it. silverweb Jun 2013 #59
I never give money to the SA due to their bigoted views. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #3
me too.......... Ernesto Jun 2013 #8
Another reason to not like them. I did not know they are anti-union. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #9
During the 30s they were known as the "Starvation Army" for their anti-union stance. Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #33
Still known as the starvation army where I came from, NW Pa. I won't give them a cent, bigots. nt Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #44
They are totally anti worker arikara Jun 2013 #58
Once the kettles come out (so to speak) this fall, fill 'em with these KamaAina Jun 2013 #21
That is a great idea my friend! hrmjustin Jun 2013 #23
This is awesome! JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #36
Kewl! Will do! DinahMoeHum Jun 2013 #38
They do a wonderful job with addicts and Alcoholics who are hopeless.. busterbrown Jun 2013 #43
I take it they will follow other Biblical codes of conduct such as in Deuteronomy. gordianot Jun 2013 #4
Shh...don't give them any ideas. Wednesdays Jun 2013 #6
They could take a page out of the law in places such as Iran. gordianot Jun 2013 #11
I've been stoned in public. Oh wait... nt Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #45
I thought Australia was more accepting of gays. nt hack89 Jun 2013 #5
OK, that seals it for me the final nail in their coffin! cascadiance Jun 2013 #7
Wonder if their uniforms are cotton/polyester blend. dgibby Jun 2013 #10
REALLY nice!!!!! Demoiselle Jun 2013 #18
Can't stand people/organizations dgibby Jun 2013 #31
The name alone is a clue to their creepy agenda amuse bouche Jun 2013 #12
Jesus... Lunacee_2013 Jun 2013 #13
With all the different lists of who to hate and how to hate them... DCKit Jun 2013 #14
Jesus was just a loser, according to my one 'born again' sister. nt Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #46
Mine's as cukoo, and tell her she's a Jew. But only if they don't own guns. DCKit Jun 2013 #53
We became partly estranged many years ago, but during war criminal George W. Bush's selections, Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #60
My sister is a lesbian who used to work for the Salvation Army. AnnieK401 Jun 2013 #15
"We have an alignment to the scriptures." !!!??? HUH? Demoiselle Jun 2013 #16
I hope the Salvation Army has assiduously scoured the entire bible for each and indepat Jun 2013 #17
I used to be a huge contributor to the Salvation Army with money time and a lot of energy. William769 Jun 2013 #19
You still are quakerboy Jun 2013 #37
Are their uniforms made of two different type of threads? SCVDem Jun 2013 #20
Holy crap, I had no idea they were this bad. Thanks for posting. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #22
I didn't either. I've donated to them before. reflection Jun 2013 #29
Donate to Americares instead. name not needed Jun 2013 #24
It's some dude in Australia who's been getting media attention for a year or more by saying this struggle4progress Jun 2013 #25
Important..this story is from July 2012...it is not a new story. Stuart G Jun 2013 #26
We need to boycott stores that allow Politicalboi Jun 2013 #27
As far as I can see, they are condemned by their own doctrine intaglio Jun 2013 #28
That's not even what this verse is about, strictly speaking... Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2013 #30
Goldwater ErikJ Jun 2013 #32
Thank you for posting JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #34
The original story was posted last November NYC Liberal Jun 2013 #35
Cowards Ratty Jun 2013 #39
Sounds like the Taliban AsahinaKimi Jun 2013 #40
I quit giving anything to the salvation army obama2terms Jun 2013 #41
Fuck the Salvation Army... one_voice Jun 2013 #42
re: Salvation Army says “Gays Need to Be Put to Death” allan01 Jun 2013 #47
They'll never get another penny from me. chervilant Jun 2013 #48
Fuck them. It's not news to me, never gave them a penny. idwiyo Jun 2013 #50
I'm surprised because some of the clothes they sell are simply fabulous! Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #51
NO MORE donations of any kind from me - they can ring those bells till the end of time and LibGranny Jun 2013 #52
The Salvation Army needs to merge with the Westboro Baptist Church. Chipper Chat Jun 2013 #54
No more money for them. roamer65 Jun 2013 #57
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