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In reply to the discussion: Salvation Army says “Gays Need to Be Put to Death” [View all]intaglio
(8,170 posts)28. As far as I can see, they are condemned by their own doctrine
and this despite the good works of their foot soldiers - which is a lot of good work.
From the "Salvationist" web site
We believe that the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments were given by inspiration of God, and that they only constitute the Divine rule of Christian faith and practice.
No wiggle room there Old and New Testaments with all the conflicts and contradictions and all of the condemnations of practices the compilers of that book found distasteful.
We believe that there is only one God, who is infinitely perfect, the Creator, Preserver, and Governor of all things, and who is the only proper object of religious worship.
Fair enough, personally I find this description of tyranny quite disturbing, not to say contradicted by the next 2 elements of this profession of faith.
We believe that there are three persons in the Godhead-the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, undivided in essence and co-equal in power and glory.
And the White Queen believed three impossible things before breakfast
We believe that in the person of Jesus Christ the Divine and human natures are united, so that He is truly and properly God and truly and properly man.
Only 2 impossible things here.
We believe that our first parents were created in a state of innocency, but by their disobedience they lost their purity and happiness, and that in consequence of their fall all men have become sinners, totally depraved, and as such are justly exposed to the wrath of God.
OK, so by this argument what my ancestors did has condemned me unless I have the luck to have been introduced to Christianity - which is hard luck on all those non-Europeans throughout the ages who never heard of Jesus (not his real name).
We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ has by His suffering and death made an atonement for the whole world so that whosoever will may be saved.
Except those who never heard of him and who have never heard of the Bible.
We believe that repentance towards God, faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, and regeneration by the Holy Spirit, are necessary to salvation.
and if you have never heard of Him let alone this doctrine, what happens then?
We believe that we are justified by grace through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ and that he that believeth hath the witness in himself.
This seems to be a "Get out of Jail (Hell) Free" card apart from all the other nonsense.
We believe that continuance in a state of salvation depends upon continued obedient faith in Christ.
and if you have never had the chance to find the rules of this game, what then?
We believe that it is the privilege of all believers to be wholly sanctified, and that their whole spirit and soul and body may be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Is it only the Salvationists particular breed of faith that sanctifies you? Oh, and this "preservation of the body" lark seems a completely unrelated to reality - what happens to those who are cremated?
We believe in the immortality of the soul; in the resurrection of the body; in the general judgment at the end of the world; in the eternal happiness of the righteous; and in the endless punishment of the wicked.
Well the immortality of the soul is nice, but what is a soul? The resurrection of the body is not a good idea considering how ill designed our bodies are and what about the naughty bits and the dirty bits, are they reformed as well? also there is this bit about the wicked for, as far as I can see the wicked are those who do not follow this doctrine.Edit history
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During the 30s they were known as the "Starvation Army" for their anti-union stance.
Eleanors38
Jun 2013
#33
Still known as the starvation army where I came from, NW Pa. I won't give them a cent, bigots. nt
Mnemosyne
Jun 2013
#44
I take it they will follow other Biblical codes of conduct such as in Deuteronomy.
gordianot
Jun 2013
#4
We became partly estranged many years ago, but during war criminal George W. Bush's selections,
Mnemosyne
Jun 2013
#60
I hope the Salvation Army has assiduously scoured the entire bible for each and
indepat
Jun 2013
#17
I used to be a huge contributor to the Salvation Army with money time and a lot of energy.
William769
Jun 2013
#19
It's some dude in Australia who's been getting media attention for a year or more by saying this
struggle4progress
Jun 2013
#25
I'm surprised because some of the clothes they sell are simply fabulous!
Spitfire of ATJ
Jun 2013
#51
NO MORE donations of any kind from me - they can ring those bells till the end of time and
LibGranny
Jun 2013
#52